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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Stop and think about what you just said. That would mean every group would have to tolerate everyone no matter what the senario lest they be accused of discrimination.

    This is what you really want?
    no, it means the university doesn't have to fund the christian group that excludes gay.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    With Hastings College being private (at least I believe it is) why would 4 justices deny their right to fund or defund whatever groups they want?

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds? So you tolerate everyone? You descriminate against no one?
    It only sounds stupid to those who don't understand the concept of non-discrimination. Its not a matter of individual "tolerance", its a matter of the state not allowing discriminatory policies in a state funded facility. I have no problem with a private university if a "Christian" group wants to deny membership to gays (however, I would question exactly how "Christian" they truly are).
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    I think what is says is that if the institution is receiving tax payer funding they can't discriminate.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    no, it means the university doesn't have to fund the christian group that excludes gay.
    So if your group doesn't allow NAMBLA memebers in you shouldn't get money either? Aren't you "decriminating" as well?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It only sounds stupid to those who don't understand the concept of non-discrimination.
    Which is something you don't have a clue what it actually means.

    Its not a matter of individual "tolerance", its a matter of the state not allowing discriminatory policies in a state funded facility. I have no problem with a private university if a "Christian" group wants to deny membership to gays (however, I would question exactly how "Christian" they truly are).
    So if you have a group say a children's nonprofit and you denied a NAMBLA member attending you wouldn't be eligable for funding either because you decriminate against NAMBLA.

    Starting to get the idea on how stupid your line of thinking really is?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Which is something you don't have a clue what it actually means.



    So if you have a group say a children's nonprofit and you denied a NAMBLA member attending you wouldn't be eligable for funding either because you decriminate against NAMBLA.

    Starting to get the idea on how stupid your line of thinking really is?
    No...you are simply demonstating how weak your position is by trying desperately to stretch out whatever argument you can possibly make.
    First of all, when you are talking about a "children's non-profit" you aren't talking about a state-sponsored university. Second, that would be a private agency in any event.....
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No...you are simply demonstating how weak your position is by trying desperately to stretch out whatever argument you can possibly make.
    First of all, when you are talking about a "children's non-profit" you aren't talking about a state-sponsored university. Second, that would be a private agency in any event.....
    That doesn't answer my question. I'll ask it again. How can you pretend to be supporting non descrimination if I can find groups you would desciminate against?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    That doesn't answer my question. I'll ask it again. How can you pretend to be supporting non descrimination if I can find groups you would desciminate against?
    You are either missing the point completely or just pretending to not understand, I'm not sure which. Individuals are free in this country to believe anything they want and to personally harbor discriminatory views if they want. However, the STATE is barred by the Constitution from discriminating. AGAIN, if a private so called "Christian" university wants to ban gays, they can mask their bigotry behind their religion and do so. The STATE however...cannot. Understand?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So if your group doesn't allow NAMBLA memebers in you shouldn't get money either? Aren't you "decriminating" as well?
    That's stupid. Membership in special interest clubs isn't protected. Further, in your moronic example, membership by a NAMBLA member (no, still not a protected classs) would be construed as countering the mission of the nonprofit and potentially injurious to its reputation, goals, and clients.
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