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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Or kinda like how Skins and Nazis always end up in Tea Party thread, just sayin....

    Good point.


    Its always easier to avoid the question because you don't like the example used that's destroyed your argument.

    NAMBLA can be replaced with any group that is unpopular. Traditional Mormons, incest, liberals..... any will do.

    NAMBLA however is a great way to hit your point across that general arguments using discrimination as the only criteria for banning funding are just plain stupid since an extreme viewpoint can always be found that no one wants to tolerate.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Or kinda like how Skins and Nazis always end up in Tea Party thread, just sayin....

    But, I agree. any group accepting federal funds has to accept federal rules. Like welfare recipients.
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    He referenced that

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you're now admitting you didn't answer my question as you claimed. I accept your apology.

    There is no law banning people from believing in that therefore you cannot descriminate against someone who believes it and ban them from your group if you want federal funding.

    Enjoy your fail. Again.
    This is the same response I provided to you several times above. A group promoting the goals of NAMBLA would not be able to receive funding, because NAMBLA promotes criminal activity (adult sexual contact with children). An individual believing in the mission of NAMBLA, unless he or she publicly voiced these opinions, probably wouldn't even be recognized within a group as such.

    Are you promoting the idea that people should be discriminated against on the basis of unpopular beliefs, whatever those beliefs might be?

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    NAMBLA however is a great way to hit your point across that general arguments using discrimination as the only criteria for banning funding are just plain stupid since an extreme viewpoint can always be found that no one wants to tolerate.
    The fact that you think this is particularly telling.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    This is the same response I provided to you several times above. A group promoting the goals of NAMBLA would not be able to receive funding, because NAMBLA promotes criminal activity (adult sexual contact with children). An individual believing in the mission of NAMBLA, unless he or she publicly voiced these opinions, probably wouldn't even be recognized within a group as such.
    How many times do I have to point out the only criteria the law recognized was discrimination? What part of that don't you understand? It did not say you can discriminate against those who believe in an illegal activity.

    Does that mean if a person believes in partial birth abortion and its illegal in the state they are in its ok to discriminate against them? Answer the question.

    If you still claim this produce your evidence from the ruling.

    Are you promoting the idea that people should be discriminated against on the basis of unpopular beliefs, whatever those beliefs might be?
    What I'm saying is that groups should have the right to exclude people who do not share their values on personal choice. Thats the whole idea of a group, to form a partnership of like minded people. You on the other hand claim to want no discrimination but when it comes to people who believe in certain practices you don't like, then its ok to discriminate. Its the height of hypocrisy.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    The fact that you think this is particularly telling.
    The very fact you can't debate it is particularly telling.
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    If Christians are OK with Christian groups denying membership to Homosexuals, why are they bothered by the University denying membership to Christians?
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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    How many times do I have to point out the only criteria the law recognized was discrimination? What part of that don't you understand? It did not say you can discriminate against those who believe in an illegal activity.
    The law takes as a given that all other criminal activity is accepted as such within any given law unless otherwise expressly spoken to by a clause within the law. It is not "discrimination" to bar advocacy of criminal activity, especially an activity that is particularly injurious to the mission and goals of the group, especially when it comes to nonprofit organizations.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    The very fact you can't debate it is particularly telling.
    It's usually difficult to debate a logical fallacy. That doesn't mean that your argument is a good one.

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    Re: Court: Christian group can't bar gays [and] get funding

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    How many times do I have to point out the only criteria the law recognized was discrimination? What part of that don't you understand? It did not say you can discriminate against those who believe in an illegal activity.

    Does that mean if a person believes in partial birth abortion and its illegal in the state they are in its ok to discriminate against them? Answer the question.

    If you still claim this produce your evidence from the ruling.



    What I'm saying is that groups should have the right to exclude people who do not share their values on personal choice. Thats the whole idea of a group, to form a partnership of like minded people. You on the other hand claim to want no discrimination but when it comes to people who believe in certain practices you don't like, then its ok to discriminate. Its the height of hypocrisy.
    Well, at least you've learned to spell discrimination. This thread has been worthwhile after all.

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