www.judicialwatch.org has all the SPP documents available through freedom of information. This trancends the political parties.
EDIT : Ya, this document pretty much covers giving mexicans SSN's, and unemployment benefits...
That was back when they were talking about the 'amero' as a common currency, but would require a realignment of our currencies, most likely to the lowest common denominator... meaning, lining up canada's and america's economies to be more in line with Mexico's.
When he says 'comprehensive solution' he really does mean 'blanket amnesty'... he won't be writing the bill, or reading the bill before he signs the bill, when it eventually gets proposed, and I'll put a dollar that it will get proposed once this problem gets worse...The federal government spents about $36 billion a year on border patrol. Adjusted for inflation, that's about what it has been for a long time. For some reason the right started this meme that Obama is refusing to do anything, but it's just politicking... He doesn't want to make a major change in our approach without coming up with a comprehensive solution.
YouTube - Kyl says Obama said no border security for political reasons
Now, unless you can prove that he did not go to the whitehouse and his story is not possible, well... I'm gonna take his words, cause I've been sounding alarms about SPP before the actual documents came out, and well... they speak for themselves when viewed in entirety.
I bet if those drug cartels stopped paying their cuts to the government, that there would be enough money to stop these people. If you need, I can show all the different times the FBI / CIA has been caught bringing drugs into the country, while the other branches fight 'the war at home' and arrest all the kids dumb enough to use the stuff, that is if you insist. It's amazing just how dire the situation is for the US at the moment... army spread throughout the world in hundreds of different locations, going bankrupt, then theres' a massive oil spill that some are saying threatans to evacuate much of the coast, at the same time the border problems are running rampant. Simultaneously, Israel is now posturing against Iran, and bringing US forces with them, meanwhile people are trying to smuggle aid to the palestinians. Much of the euro countries are on the verge of economic collapse and selling off their infrastructure to the same bankers that created the problems in the first place with crooked lending practises, derivatives, and other sorts of fraudulent ventures.He does not favor "blanket amnesty", he favors setting up a long and arduous path to citizenship and/or a guest worker program as part of the overall solution, but he also favors more enforcement. He just doesn't want to yeild to the political pressure to just toss out some poorly thought out kneejerk reaction and slap some more troops here or there for show without having an actual plan. This could easily degenerate into something like the absurd war on drugs where we're blowing TONS of money every year and not accomplishing really anything at all.
I wish I was just making it all up... but if there's going to be a solution found, it's going to come from individuals getting active in their communities and making things better. If not, we are in for a rough futur.
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"Rounding up" 10 million people who want to disappear is not an easy thing by any stretch of the imagination. It would be a massive law enforcement effort beyond anything you can imagine... We'd need to expand ICE to something several time larger than all the current law enforcement agencies combined and give them unlimited power with no due process restrictions or warrants required or anything... Nation-wide police state... It just isn't an option.
Ya... it's a rediculous waste of money, we should have been out of there once the initial plan of 'regime change' in Iraq was accomplished.Or, look at how we're doing catching insurgents in Iraq. We're spending almost a trillion dollars a year there and catching maybe 10,000 a year? If that?
If you were hoping to accomplish the task within a year...but if it was really a multi-pronged effort to clean house, you'd start having mexicans fleeing to the border. That'd at least free up some jobs."Rounding up" 10 million people who want to disappear is not an easy thing by any stretch of the imagination. It would be a massive law enforcement effort beyond anything you can imagine... We'd need to expand ICE to something several time larger than all the current law enforcement agencies combined and give them unlimited power with no due process restrictions or warrants required or anything... Nation-wide police state... It just isn't an option.
I'm telling you, read the PDF and you'll see the plan SINCE the republican days WAS to get Mexicans in on the social security network.... even if that means giving them unemployment benefits, it's to turn them all into 'north americans'...A Republican claiming Obama said something is not reliable. I bet there is a kernal of truth to it though. I bet Obama said that he didn't want to increase border security unless it was part of a comprehensive plan on immigration. That's just smart though. The spin that it's like Obama is trying to extort their cooperation or whatever is transparent partisan hackery.
You don't even have to take my words for it... Obama was bought and paid for by the same people that bought and paid for Bush. They are nothing but puppets, and the 'puppet-masters' want to make the mexicans part of 'north america'.
Because this is what WAR IS it's defending the homeland, not establishing some government in some remote desert on the world. Ok... There are americans being killed by foreigners on OUR soil without retribution.... that's by any definition an invasion force. It's disgraceful there some are willing to cede land back to mexico without even a fight for it???So, with all those problems why would you want to take on a whole other "war" at home? We can't afford it and we have far higher priorities on our plate.
The mexicans won't stop untill they've taken back the better part of the territory between texas and california. I'm just telling you what's really at stake here.
Thats why, the obstacle will NEVER be built.
That said... When YOUR government decides to support those here illegally either overtly through ID cards, medical care, etc, or passively through a lack of border control, it sends a message to the world at large. "Come on in, we don't give a ****!"....The Illegal Price is Right. "Come on Down!"
California's number drops by 250,000, the nation's nearly 1 million. The sharpest drop in three decades renews the debate over what to do about those still here.
A new report that the nation's illegal immigrant population has declined by nearly 1 million has sharpened the debate over whether to legalize those remaining or allow their numbers to shrink through attrition.
The number of illegal immigrants living in the United States dropped to 10.8 million in 2009 from 11.6 million in 2008, marking the second consecutive year of decline and the sharpest decrease in at least three decades, according to a report this week by the U.S. Department of Homeland Security.
Illegal immigrant numbers plunge - Los Angeles Times