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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    That would be a brilliant and effective deployment of troops.
    The problem is that there is no brilliant deployment of troops or walls. Illegal immigration occurs wherever you don't deploy the troops or walls. They go around you.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Men of sense often learn from their enemies. It is from their foes, not their friends, that cities learn the lesson of building high walls. -Aristophanes

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    Increase military funding. We have plenty of money right?
    No, we don't even though government acts as though we do. The 'sane' approach would be to take troops out of places like afghanistan and Iraq and actually do what the millitary is meant for : defending the homeland. Then the resources would be a non-issue.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We need to hammer their asses for income taxes. Every company that is suspected of employing illegal aliens, should be audited and the money paid out should be tracked and the illegal aliens that received should get hit for the entire 36% of their tax liability, with no credits, breaks, or deductions. Wanna see illegal immigration go down? Start tracking down all that cash.
    Those taxes are already being paid by the people the illegal stole the identity from.

    The real person is required to pay taxes on all income paid to him on paper whether it was him or not.

    I don't hear anybody talking about how many people in the US are hurt financially by identity theft by illegals.

    A lot of people have been destroyed by that.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Not bad...not bad at all! Thats one way to get their attention

    Ok, what about giving an "order" to the Federal Reserve to cease making electronic transfers to Mexico??? A third of the Mexican GDP, such a cut-off would require immediate action on the part of Mexico to save their economy
    There are a lot of US citizens (born in the US) that send money to their families in Mexico for the lack of social services in the country.

    They take care of their elder relatives.

    An order like you suggest first would do nothing and would not be legal.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    No, we don't even though government acts as though we do. The 'sane' approach would be to take troops out of places like afghanistan and Iraq and actually do what the millitary is meant for : defending the homeland. Then the resources would be a non-issue.
    I'm all for that. I agree that our military should be "defending the homeland", but i don't believe its 'sane' to leave the middle east now. Whos gonna police while were gone? They certainly aren't capable of doing it, otherwise we'd be gone by now. I mean we have put so much time, effort, and cash into the war, woulden't it be a complete waste to just cut out and leave? I think we should be more aggressive in the war. It would really cut down how long we would of been down there and remain down there. If your all in, your all in.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The problem is that there is no brilliant deployment of troops or walls. Illegal immigration occurs wherever you don't deploy the troops or walls. They go around you.
    You set up anti-personel mines and grant troops shoot on site authorization and you will drop illegal immigration down to a trickle.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    You set up anti-personel mines and grant troops shoot on site authorization and you will drop illegal immigration down to a trickle.
    Yeah, well, I'm not a nazi, so... naaaah... I won't be going for that... I believe in proportional response, human rights and due process... Killing people with no trial just for not having their immigration paperwork in order would be completely insane...
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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    If we inform them first then it couldn't be directly related as a Nazi act. At least they have a choice in the matter (not cross our borders) where as the Jews didn't. No I'm not agreeing with Ferris. I just hate people always comparing modern policies and methods to Nazi Germany. It gets old.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by LimeLight View Post
    If we inform them first then it couldn't be directly related as a Nazi act. At least they have a choice in the matter (not cross our borders) where as the Jews didn't. No I'm not agreeing with Ferris. I just hate people always comparing modern policies and methods to Nazi Germany. It gets old.
    LOL. Fair enough. But empowering law enforcement to kill people for suspicion of attempted illegal immigration with no evidenciary requirements, no judge, to jury, no due process, no rights, no nothing, is just madness. It's no different than just unleashing them on the masses with order to shoot to kill anybody that looks to them like they're drunk driving... Drunk driving results in around 10,000 deaths a year, so actually it is MORE crazy than that would be...

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