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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    BmanMcfly - The money earned by illegal immigrants is an actual illegal gain, right or not?

    If, so, what should we do about it?
    We need to hammer their asses for income taxes. Every company that is suspected of employing illegal aliens, should be audited and the money paid out should be tracked and the illegal aliens that received should get hit for the entire 36% of their tax liability, with no credits, breaks, or deductions. Wanna see illegal immigration go down? Start tracking down all that cash.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    We need to hammer their asses for income taxes. Every company that is suspected of employing illegal aliens, should be audited and the money paid out should be tracked and the illegal aliens that received should get hit for the entire 36% of their tax liability, with no credits, breaks, or deductions. Wanna see illegal immigration go down? Start tracking down all that cash.
    Not bad...not bad at all! Thats one way to get their attention

    Ok, what about giving an "order" to the Federal Reserve to cease making electronic transfers to Mexico??? A third of the Mexican GDP, such a cut-off would require immediate action on the part of Mexico to save their economy

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Not bad...not bad at all! Thats one way to get their attention

    Ok, what about giving an "order" to the Federal Reserve to cease making electronic transfers to Mexico??? A third of the Mexican GDP, such a cut-off would require immediate action on the part of Mexico to save their economy
    I'm all for it! And searching Mexican nationals crossing back into Mexico, for large amounts of American cash.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Of course you'll never totally seal the border. If we took every combat unit in the entire US military, even at it's current unsustainable, rapidly bankrupting, level, and did nothing whatsoever with them but lined them up along the entire border of the US, there would be over 3,000 feet between one soldier and the next... That would mean leaving no soldiers for actual defense work, withdrawing from our commitments around the world, and continuing the almost trillion dollar a year budget anyways, but it still wouldn't really make it a whole lot tougher to get in... 3,000 feet is a long ways at night... Not to mention trying to thoroughly check all the boats, containers, trucks and passengers that come in and out every day...

    If you want leaders to lie to you, vote Republican. If you want ones that live in the real world, you need to accept that sometimes they'll tell you the truth rather than what you want to hear.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Of course you'll never totally seal the border. If we took every combat unit in the entire US military, even at it's current unsustainable, rapidly bankrupting, level, and did nothing whatsoever with them but lined them up along the entire border of the US, there would be over 3,000 feet between one soldier and the next... That would mean leaving no soldiers for actual defense work, withdrawing from our commitments around the world, and continuing the almost trillion dollar a year budget anyways, but it still wouldn't really make it a whole lot tougher to get in... 3,000 feet is a long ways at night... Not to mention trying to thoroughly check all the boats, containers, trucks and passengers that come in and out every day...

    If you want leaders to lie to you, vote Republican. If you want ones that live in the real world, you need to accept that sometimes they'll tell you the truth rather than what you want to hear.

    The ones you seem to be backing would meld America with Mexico and erase the border, leaving us without a country anymore. So I say, wake up man. A country without borders is not a country at all. China built a 5000 mile wall, we can too.


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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The ones you seem to be backing would meld America with Mexico and erase the border, leaving us without a country anymore. So I say, wake up man. A country without borders is not a country at all. China built a 5000 mile wall, we can too.
    You can defeat a $10 billion wall with a $10 ladder. It's just a political placebo. Politicians support it because it makes the voters think they're doing something about illegal immigration, but they know it's pointless.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    You can defeat a $10 billion wall with a $10 ladder. It's just a political placebo. Politicians support it because it makes the voters think they're doing something about illegal immigration, but they know it's pointless.
    Not if every inch of that wall is covered by lethal weapons. Hose down a few illegals and the crossing attempts will decrease dramatically.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not if every inch of that wall is covered by lethal weapons. Hose down a few illegals and the crossing attempts will decrease dramatically.
    Ah some conservatives answer to everything. Kill people and it will solve the problem...

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not if every inch of that wall is covered by lethal weapons. Hose down a few illegals and the crossing attempts will decrease dramatically.
    Well, then you're just back to my previous post:

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    If we took every combat unit in the entire US military, even at it's current unsustainable, rapidly bankrupting, level, and did nothing whatsoever with them but lined them up along the entire border of the US, there would be over 3,000 feet between one soldier and the next... That would mean leaving no soldiers for actual defense work, withdrawing from our commitments around the world, and continuing the almost trillion dollar a year budget anyways, but it still wouldn't really make it a whole lot tougher to get in... 3,000 feet is a long ways at night... Not to mention trying to thoroughly check all the boats, containers, trucks and passengers that come in and out every day...

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    Re: Napolitano: ‘You’re Never Going to Totally Seal That Border’

    Quote Originally Posted by somepeoplesay View Post
    Sooo, what parts of the United States are "off limits" because of them?
    The Sonoran Desert National Monument.

    Los Zetas is a dangerous drug cartel, but to equate them to all illegal immigrants with one large stroke is ridiculous. It's like saying no one should go to the middle east because all middle easterners are terrorists.
    The only way to stop Los Zetas from threatening the security of the U.S. is to seal the border.

    The Mexican Drug war is pretty terrifying, but we are already assisting Mexico through the merida initiative, and this won't be the first time in history that a very organized, heavily armed South American drug cartel is taken down. Anyone remember Pablo Escobar? That guy was the 7th richest man in the world, and he still got a bullet in the head. I think we can take care of these thugs.
    These guys make Escobar look like a pussy.

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