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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Not to get too far into that as I believe you are proven right here just by the emotional rhetorical devices used to get inane laws passed for "safety". Ben Franklin had possibly the best quote in that department.
    Yes. Inane emotionality is a part of human nature and any political system that fails to account for it is flawed, in my opinion.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Depends on which side of it they are on I guess, the productive I've spoken with hate it, of course public sector are going to love it, but the governments themselves are starting to make cuts, and those getting the perks are starting to do the typical complaining, and in Greece's case, rioting.
    I think "productive" in the context you are using it is flawed. I don't see society accurately being split between net contributers and net noncontributers. Everyone contributes something, love and comfort to another individual if nothing else. Even people with mental handicap can make life better for someone else.

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I agree here to an extent, except for those things that are proven to work, such as the BOR, and the more appropriate amendments of the constitution such as the 14th, 19th.....etc. Budgets should always have a sunset, taxes, policies. No argument here.
    Now we are getting to the meat of it I think. Stuff that is proven to work in terms of making society better.

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    Unfortunately, I think you are correct here, which is a harsh reality of our society, things have gotten so easy that people no longer think of what can or may happen, only what is and who is "responsible" for it.
    I don't really like it either, but I think its true. I think we have to look at the stuff we like and don't like and engineer solutions taking everything into account if we are going to have a great society.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    I was raised in a Country / Nation where ownership of guns was gradually eroded to the point that it is now almost a criminal offense to own a 'Pea shooter'.

    I agree with the enforcement of the 2nd amendment but have to point out that are more ways around such an amendment than have yet been realized.

    For instance, it should be possible for anyone be they local, state, or federal to simply limit the amount of ammunition held by someone, or even to limit the size of ammunition, believe me, the NRA may well have won this battle, but the 'Loony left' i believe I read some call it, have not surrendered.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    I agree with the enforcement of the 2nd amendment but have to point out that are more ways around such an amendment than have yet been realized.

    For instance, it should be possible for anyone be they local, state, or federal to simply limit the amount of ammunition held by someone, or even to limit the size of ammunition...
    It would be very difficult to see how these things could pass a strict scrutiny test.
    Not to say that the anti-gun left won't try.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There were something like 29 shootings in Chicago over the weekend, yet Daley continues to tell us that the ban is working.
    More evidence that gun-free zones are public hazards.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    supreme court incorporates the 2nd against the states with the 14th amendment

    Woo-HOO!!!


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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    Good, now its time to challenge all the state bull**** gun laws.
    So true. We can carry concealed in Texas, but open carry is illegal. I suppose they worry about guns in plain sight getting stolen (like a purse snatch). Too bad. It's not their problem, nor their right to ban open carry.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    So true. We can carry concealed in Texas, but open carry is illegal. I suppose they worry about guns in plain sight getting stolen (like a purse snatch). Too bad. It's not their problem, nor their right to ban open carry.
    I never could understand the logic in that.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Mickey Shane View Post
    Yes, unless you are a convicted felon you have the right to own guns. I believe Chicago and DC are the only areas that have mandated restrictions to the 2nd amendment. Those restrictions need to be abolished.
    What other Constitutional rights can felons be denied, once they've served their sentence? What's so special about the right to keep and bear arms and the right to vote that they can be denied, when every other Constitutional right applies to ex-cons?

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    What other Constitutional rights can felons be denied, once they've served their sentence? What's so special about the right to keep and bear arms and the right to vote that they can be denied, when every other Constitutional right applies to ex-cons?
    In many places, they cannot vote as well. Certain felons must notify the public as to where they live.
    Their relevant rights were denied thru due process, as part of their sentence.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Nice try, but you want to interpret the Constitution the way you see fit....and not according to those that authored it.
    Yet the Founders understood that interpretation would be necessary, as not all future things could possibly be included. This is where YOU miss the boat.
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