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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarecrow Akhbar View Post
    I know you're copying a headline, however, it must be pointed out that the Constitution guarantees the individual's right to keep and bear arms, and the USSC did nothing but re-affirm what already existed.
    This is why I think the article title is b.s. How is the S.C. going to extend something we already have?
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Way to oversimplify everything that Daly has said about gun regs....

    Daly is part of the Mayor's Collation.

    The Chicago law will be rewritten within the month. -- I agree there should never have been an all out ban.

    California requires a fingerprint to purchase certain types of ammo.-- Chicago should implement that.
    Hopefully the SC strikes that down too. It would be like requiring a fingerprint to buy a newspaper,bible, protest sign,hire a lawyer and so. Besides that requiring a finger print to buy ammo is not going to help police solve crime.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    The purpose of all that paperwork and tracking to exercise basic freedoms serves only to weaken those freedoms and empower the government. It has nothing to do with crime solving at all. That's merely an excuse to get the sheep to accept yet another hurdle between them and their freedom, just like those pointless seatbelt laws.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Besides that requiring a finger print to buy ammo is not going to help police solve crime.
    It already has...

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    It already has...
    It's incredibly easy to get around that.
    It doesn't work.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    This is a great victory in the war for recognition of our rights
    Remember these aren't granted by the government but they are naturally ours, as someone else has already said.

    It's not a time to rest though, there are other legislative acts that need to be overturned like the Hughes Amendment, 922 compliance rules and other nonsensical restrictions.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    That's known as the Amendment process. If the Constitution needs changed, Amend it. "Interpreting" it out of anything like it was orginally intended to be is not an option, not without Amendments.
    Except you're wrong about that. Pretty much everything we need to deal with current and future societal issues is already in the Constitution. The Founders knew that... that's why the Amendment process is so difficult, and why it has rarely needed to be used in our history. Everything we need is right there. No need to change it.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There's two sides to this.
    Interpretation to clarify terms or whatnot is a certain necessity - but interpretation that broadens the power of the federal government is not.
    This is, after all, why there is an amendment process and the 10th amendment.
    And what you just said is open to interpretation.
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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    As to the decision by SCOTUS, support it as it supports what is clearly in the Constitution. I see no evidence that banning guns from law-abiding citizens reduces gun-crime. From a scientific point of view, NOT support the decision make no sense to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    As to the decision by SCOTUS, support it as it supports what is clearly in the Constitution. I see no evidence that banning guns from law-abiding citizens reduces gun-crime. From a scientific point of view, NOT support the decision make no sense to me.
    If you think banning doesn't make sense, you should see some of the other laws relating to firearms.
    Completely stupid stuff in firearms regulation.
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