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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    1. Life without parole for the first offense of any serious violent crime indicating a criminal lack of regard for the lives of others: armed robbery, forcible rape, armed carjacking, hot burglary, etc. (premeditated murder, imho, should usually result in death.)
    The moral issues of this policy notwithstanding, I think it would be impossible to pay for something like this. Unless you're also planning on releasing all nonviolent drug criminals.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    You know, except for the fact that I refuse to consider life without parole a legitimate sentence-- you should either have a plan for how to rehabilitate them or you should put a bullet in them-- I like your approach here. There's a reason they're called the Department of Corrections, and that should be their primary purpose in dealing with convicts.
    To be honest, I tend to think that way also, but when I say it Certain Overly Compassionate Persons totally freak out on me.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    The moral issues of this policy notwithstanding, I think it would be impossible to pay for something like this. Unless you're also planning on releasing all nonviolent drug criminals.
    I tend to favor some form of legalization, along with regulation of supply-chain, for many forms of recreational drugs, so yeah I'd be okay with releasing most drug offenders who had committed no violent crimes or serious felonies. I would consider high-level drug trafficking to be an exception: you don't get that high up in the drug supply chain without killing some folks, whether you got caught or not...

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    To be honest, I tend to think that way also, but when I say it Certain Overly Compassionate Persons totally freak out on me.
    That's because they totally miss the "rehabilitate" part while they're stamping their feet over the "put a bullet in them" part. Honestly, for all of the extra crimes in which I'd recommend the death penalty, there'd be far fewer executions than there are now-- because most people would have gotten fixed up before they reached the "put a bullet in them" stage.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Yet the Founders understood that interpretation would be necessary, as not all future things could possibly be included. This is where YOU miss the boat.
    There's two sides to this.
    Interpretation to clarify terms or whatnot is a certain necessity - but interpretation that broadens the power of the federal government is not.
    This is, after all, why there is an amendment process and the 10th amendment.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by chevydriver1123 View Post
    I never could understand the logic in that.
    You have to cover the firearm so it doesn't spook, jump out of the holster and shoot anyone.

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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You have to cover the firearm so it doesn't spook, jump out of the holster and shoot anyone.





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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    There were something like 29 shootings in Chicago over the weekend, yet Daley continues to tell us that the ban is working.
    Bugsy Daley is the type of scum that the founders had in mind when they wanted to make sure that every freeman was armed and knew how to use a weapon



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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    It nearly was. Thats why its so scary to even consider liberals on the bench. They don't care what the law says. They want to enact social justice in their own image.
    what is most amazing is the BS Breyer has spewed in these two cases. He argues that a fundamental right should be modified based on the current environment. In other words, if you are in a high crime area you might have less second amendment rights than someone living in a peaceful GOP run rural area. Of course, using that logic we could say

    1) if a criminal is particularly viscious he should be denied miranda rights and should be tortured while someone who is merely accused of say shoplifting and has no record should be entitled his complete 5th and 6th amendment rights

    2) political speech that is more palatable to most people gets more protection than speech that upsets the majority

    3) Catholics and Baptists should have more protection under the first amendment than say the Baha'ai faith or wiccans.



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    Re: Justices extend gun owner rights nationwide

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Yes, liberals are generally more in favor of restriction on owning firearms, but it's the "rabid" part that is a fabrication. Saying "Yeah, registering guns is a good idea we should make people register their guns" is not the same as LIBERALS WANT TO TAKE OUR GUNS BECAUSE THEY HATE FREEDOM.
    registration is the tool that facilitates confiscation. every group or individual that wants confiscation supports registration. Most of those groups or people also deny that they want confiscation because that would cause even simple minded sheep to oppose their preliminary schemes.

    registration serves no useful purpose and many nefarious ones./ If you support registration you support or promote the path towards confiscation even if that is not your current intent



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