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Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

First, I said I believe he did, but one never really knows the goings-on between someone's ears.

As for my "philosophy"... I won't give an absolute "Yes", but close. I believe Byrd's transgressions were so gross as to prohibit his running, and especially being the head of the party in the Senate.

Of course, the electorate should have the say, and sadly they kept voting Byrd in. Having said that, I don't think it would be tolerated of an up-and-comer today.

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Perfectly good reasoning, IMO.
 
My favorite pastime... pointing out liberal hypocrisy.

Great. When you're done cherry picking my posts (soooooo Glenn Beck of you!!!), please take the time to add some value to this thread by posting something constructive.
 
Great. When you're done cherry picking my posts (soooooo Glenn Beck of you!!!), please take the time to add some value to this thread by posting something constructive.

I'm not cherry picking your posts, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of your reasoning.

By the way, your quote of Brit Hume is taken completely out of context (sooooo Randi Rhodes of you !!!).
 
Because there isn't institutional knowledge for an executive branch.

Institutional knowledge can be garnered through local, and state governments... if that is what a voter seeks. I also think it is highly overrated.

We would have been far better off without professional politicians pushing agenda's that undermine commerce and Liberty.

In fact, before Senators were elected, I do believe the idea was to have our representatives come from their areas, serve a short stint and then return home. The representatives shouldn't be too far detached from recent events in their towns and cities. Today's politician too often becomes a DC animal... and worse...

Senators that only know politics... and have never experienced the private sector, or experienced little of it, like Byrd, Biden, Schumer, Frank and Obama have done greater damage than a revolving door of local yokels coming and going could ever dream of doing... because they would do less and be more cautious about their actions.

It should almost be mandatory for a representative to have years of experience in the private sector... it can never be, but it would be wise... as noted by...

... GeorgeMcGovern in a little celebrated article:
George McGovern laments that after his experience in the bed-and-breakfast business he realizes that laws and regulations pertaining to small business are actually hurting the lower-wage workers whom he had tried to help during his entire political career. With his Stratford Inn in bankruptcy, McGovern now says:

In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business.... I wish that during the years I was in public office I had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better Senator and a more understanding presidential contender... To create job opportunities, we need entrepreneurs who will risk their capital against an expected payoff. Too often, however, public policy does not consider whether we are choking off those opportunities.

The anti-capitalist mentality of Clintonomics - Editorial - page 4 | Business Horizons

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Strom was just as bad, in my opinion worse because so much of it happened while he was in office. I'm still waiting for anyone to show proof he apologized for his views like Byrd did




Didn't byrd vote against the civil rights act, AND state while serving in office that the KLAN was needed? :shock:
 
Didn't byrd vote against the civil rights act, AND state while serving in office that the KLAN was needed? :shock:

He did vote against the CRA, which he publically apologized for later. And I don't believe he made that statement while in office. Now can you give me proof Strom ever apologized for his racist past like Byrd did?
 
Institutional knowledge can be garnered through local, and state governments... if that is what a voter seeks. I also think it is highly overrated.
I think that knowing how everything works and having a close relationship with your colleagues is good, and I think it helps for them to worry about how their legislation will effect things in the long term, not just the few years they're in.

We would have been far better off without professional politicians pushing agenda's that undermine commerce and Liberty.
Again, in states with term limits, it's even worse. California would be a bit better off if our legislators had more time to figure out what they were doing and take the long term view of things instead of trying to hop from office to office.

In fact, before Senators were elected, I do believe the idea was to have our representatives come from their areas, serve a short stint and then return home. The representatives shouldn't be too far detached from recent events in their towns and cities. Today's politician too often becomes a DC animal... and worse...
It happens with term limits too. The citizen legislator is, with our current system, an unrealistic idea.

Senators that only know politics... and have never experienced the private sector, or experienced little of it, like Byrd, Biden, Schumer, Frank and Obama have done greater damage than a revolving door of local yokels coming and going could ever dream of doing... because they would do less and be more cautious about their actions.
Like Palin, McCain, McConnell, or Lott? If the problem is on both sides, don't only list one. You have no idea whether people would be less cautious about their actions or not.

It should almost be mandatory for a representative to have years of experience in the private sector... it can never be, but it would be wise... as noted by...
They may know more about business issues, but that doesn't mean they know much about the military or education or several other important areas.
 
He did vote against the CRA, which he publically apologized for later. And I don't believe he made that statement while in office. Now can you give me proof Strom ever apologized for his racist past like Byrd did?



Byrd did make that statement while in office.


Robert Byrd - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


1947 to be exact.




Don't care about strom, dood was as racist as byrd. :shrug:
 
You are right he was a state delegate. I still think the fact that he apologized so strongly counts for something. What's your view on Lott? Dood is as racist at Strom as I see it.




Lotts the dood that made the comment at stroms shindig, right?


Didnt he apologize? Has he ever made a racist statement?


So in your mind byrd is not a racist but strom and lott are?


Whats the difference? Hmmm.... :ssst:
 
Lotts the dood that made the comment at stroms shindig, right?


Didnt he apologize? Has he ever made a racist statement?


So in your mind byrd is not a racist but strom and lott are?


Whats the difference? Hmmm.... :ssst:

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Whats the difference? Hmmm.... :ssst:

Strom didn't recant. Byrd did. Several times. Don't let the facts get in your way though. Or those of our Nazi friends or Taipeian relatives.
 
Strom didn't recant. Byrd did. Several times. Don't let the facts get in your way though. Or those of our Nazi friends or Taipeian relatives.

I love how Plantation Negroes like yourself likes to make false links between Nazis and Republicans.

And BTW, you need a geography lesson. I don't live in Taipei...
 
I love how Plantation Negroes like yourself likes to make false links between Nazis and Republicans.

American is actually German.

And BTW, you need a geography lesson. I don't live in Taipei...

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American is actually German.

As usual, your posts make little or no sense...



Broken image links don't change the fact that I don't live in Taipei. Taipei is merely the fourth largest city (according to the new municipal boundaries that take effect later this year) in Taiwan...
 
Lotts the dood that made the comment at stroms shindig, right?


Didnt he apologize? Has he ever made a racist statement?


So in your mind byrd is not a racist but strom and lott are?


Whats the difference? Hmmm.... :ssst:

In my mind the difference is that Byrd made his statements fifty years ago and apologized several times of his own accord, Lott made his comment a few years ago and only apologized after intense media coverage of his comment. What do you see as the difference here?
 
In my mind the difference is that Byrd made his statements fifty years ago and apologized several times of his own accord, Lott made his comment a few years ago and only apologized after intense media coverage of his comment. What do you see as the difference here?

Byrd didn't apologize until 1982, almost 20 years after filibustering the Civil Rights Act.. Byrd seemed to change his position according to the the political winds blowing at the time.

Thurmond voted for the extension of the voting rights act, making King's birthday a federal holiday, and hired black staffers when it was uncommon. Seems to me he apologized by deeds rather than by empty rhetoric.
 
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In my mind the difference is that Byrd made his statements fifty years ago and apologized several times of his own accord, Lott made his comment a few years ago and only apologized after intense media coverage of his comment. What do you see as the difference here?



Did Obama ever make an apology regarding calling white people racist?


Lets hold you to the same standards here. ;)
 
He didn't say "a typical white person is racist". If you can't even discuss the clip honestly, I see no reason to discuss this with you
 
He didn't say "a typical white person is racist". If you can't even discuss the clip honestly, I see no reason to discuss this with you




then run away. he absolutley said just that...


in his speech he said his grandmother was scared of black people and would make racial utterances.


he then said in a radio interview that her views were typical of white people....



I am being honest, it is you who is not.
 
He didn't say "a typical white person is racist". If you can't even discuss the clip honestly, I see no reason to discuss this with you

Really?

I suppose I could say that Tiger Woods is a typical black person, his bad behavior was bred into him .... and you wouldn't consider that racist ???

Same thing as Obama said about his grandmother.
 
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