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Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

rivrrat said:
Look, seriously... I didn't agree with Byrd on everything. He was a Democrat after all. :lol: Democrats are pretty well known for their racist policies (affirmative action) among other things. But I'm not going to jump on some Byrd bashing bandwagon solely because he used to be in the KKK for like a year when he was in his early 20s. Did he used to have racist views? Without a ****ing doubt. He admits to it, which is more than I can say for most politicians... hell, most PEOPLE period. Perhaps he still held those racist views to his death, I don't know. What I DO know is that his policies changed. And I really don't give a flying patootie what someone's personal beliefs are as long as they don't try and make me and the rest of the country abide by them. And, after the civil rights movement, he didn't. His policies changed with the times... which, again... is more than I can say for most politicians or people in general.

You want to bash him, then bash him for something significant, I'm sure there's a ****load of stuff out there. But don't bash such an icon simply for being a member of a racist organization for all of a year in his youth.
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I couldn't have said it better myself. It's ironic seeing conservatives bashing Byrd for his racist past, when conservatives used to defend Strom Thurmond so vigorously for similar past sins.

I'm not a big fan of the "kind of pork", but bashing Byrd for views he held forty years ago and has since renounced is just silly.
 
TurtleDude said:
being a racist is a personal failure

being a pork grubbing corrupt politician costs us all money

he gave up one vice for a far more costly one
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Spoken like someone who sees cost only in dollar signs and not in human lives.
 
Hate to say I told you so... but anyone that thought a Democratic Governor and a Democratic Secretary of State would allow a special election to replace Byrd in November was a bit naive.

“The State Code is an interesting document. Within Chapter 3 that focuses on elections, there are several sections that determine how vacancies are filled.

“Section 3-10-3 states that for terms with more than two years and six months remaining, such as this one with Senator Byrd, the Governor will appoint a replacement who serves the unexpired term until a successor has been elected.

“But that election will not be the 2010 General election. Part of this same section of code, requires the candidate to have filed during the filing period. That filing period has already passed. There was a legal case in 1994 decided by the West Virginia Supreme Court of Appeals that up held that position of requiring candidates to file during the filing period.

“That means the election for the unexpired term would be the next election cycle which would take place in 2012. Candidates will be nominated in the primary and elected in the general of 2012.
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Tennant Statement On Procedure To Fill Vacant Senate Seat (Video Included)
 
Middleground said:
Not sure what you mean. Do you not think that homosexuals will eventually be treated the same as everyone else?
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Take blacks for example. They are treated like everyone else for the most part, but to hear their leader you'd think nothing has changed. It's all just a business to extract money out of people. So as long as it's good political business for the left, homophobia will remain just as wide spread racism has remained the mantra of the race leaders.
 
People are silly comparing Strom Thurmond to Robert Byrd. Strom Thurmond died a racist. Robert Byrd spent the better part for the last 50 years trying to improve race relations.
 
Guy Incognito said:
Spoken like someone who sees cost only in dollar signs and not in human lives.
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wrong-but those who steal from me harm me more than those who might dislike me due to my color
 
Hatuey said:
People are silly comparing Strom Thurmond to Robert Byrd. Strom Thurmond died a racist. Robert Byrd spent the better part for the last 50 years trying to improve race relations.
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how does supporting affirmative action and making excuses for black crime rates help improve race relations?
 
TurtleDude said:
how does supporting affirmative action and making excuses for black crime rates help improve race relations?
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Sources for any of this? Or are you leading to another post where you complain about the black guy who got a job you feel was yours?
 
TurtleDude said:
Think they will bury him in his hood and burn a cross at the service

Other than FDR and LBJ, you would be hard pressed to find someone who is more responsible for the deficit than that clown
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What about Reagan?
 
Gill said:
Was being a Klucker the biggest mistake of his life... or, was it fillibustering the Civil Rights Act... or was it saying the "N" word on national tv... ???
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This should be a poll...

By the way, West Virginia is not a southern state.
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Then what is it? It was south of the border states and is south of the Mason-Dixon Line...
 
Deuce said:
Conservatives are some hateful folk.

I respect anyone who is able to see the error of their ways and renounce them publicly. Takes courage. RIP, you old geezer!
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But when a conservarive sees the error of his/her ways and it doesn't matter. The focus is always on what they FORMERLY believed... remember a certain former Senator from SC?
 
Actually, technically it was for a short time, but the northern counties of West Virginia left and formed a new state which was admitted to the Union during the Civil War. Actually, I know many Virginians who refer to West Virginia as western Virginia as they do not recognize the legality of the succession of West Virginia. It took the federal government to FORCE Virginia to accept the admission of WV to the Union to be re-admitted even though the Union never officially recognized their leaving the Union in the first place...
 
Redress said:
And nowhere will you see me condoning his pork habit. Now those who act like he is still a KKK type, that is a different manner.
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The only pork that is ok with me is on the dinner table, not the obscene amounts of bacon and pork chops that Byrd brought to West Virginia...
 
Hatuey said:
People are silly comparing Strom Thurmond to Robert Byrd. Strom Thurmond died a racist. Robert Byrd spent the better part for the last 50 years trying to improve race relations.
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TurtleDude said:
how does supporting affirmative action and making excuses for black crime rates help improve race relations?
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Hatuey said:
Sources for any of this? Or are you leading to another post where you complain about the black guy who got a job you feel was yours?
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So, turtle dude has to source his claims, but you expect us to accept yours without any?!?!?
 
ludahai said:
But when a conservarive sees the error of his/her ways and it doesn't matter. The focus is always on what they FORMERLY believed... remember a certain former Senator from SC?
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Did Strom Thurmond ever come out and publically apologize for his presidential run? If he did, I missed it
 
ludahai said:
Saw it after I posted. I hope the GOP challenges this and forces the special elections. Other states have special elections in a much shorter time frame. Surely "western Virginia" can arrange one as well...
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The GOP should challenge state law? Wouldn't that go against their platform a bit?
 
Deuce said:
The GOP should challenge state law? Wouldn't that go against their platform a bit?
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The state law mandates a special election. If the governor won't allow it to happen, the GOP should challenge the noncompliance with state law, not the state law itself...
 
Hatuey said:
Sources for any of this? Or are you leading to another post where you complain about the black guy who got a job you feel was yours?
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I asked a question-I was not aware that questions required footnotes to primary sources. But if you want to deny that the left supports affirmative action or makes excuses for the abhorent rates of black crime go ahead and I will proceed to pick your response apart and leave it rotting in the sun for the vultures of truth to feast upon:mrgreen:
 
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