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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    i had the best time ever rafting the gauley one october long ago. better than sex.
    Awesome!! The Gauley is certainly a world class whitewater run. Did you do it when the dam was still using the tubes to put the water out? (as opposed to the stupid underwater release now with the hydro)

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Then you are not doing it right shorty.
    You should let me take you down the Gauley, you might change your mind.


    On topic, though, this is one reason I respected Byrd:

    Robert C. Byrd’s “We Stand Passively Mute” Speech: Doc Text
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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    You should let me take you down the Gauley, you might change your mind.


    The Good Reverend with swagger gives you a look and says the same thing.........
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

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    Everything in WVa is named after him, so he'll be well remembered.
    Naturally the rest of the US Taxpayer funded his projects.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    All the Byrd apologetics in this thread have me shaking my head. The man was a cynical opportunist at best, and did vile, unforgivable things. Having him in the Senate, especially for so long, was an embarrassment to this country. It's appalling that his legacy of racism didn't end his political career, and does not speak well of the sort machine politics still at work in this country.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    All the Byrd apologetics in this thread have me shaking my head. The man was a cynical opportunist at best, and did vile, unforgivable things. Having him in the Senate, especially for so long, was an embarrassment to this country. It's appalling that his legacy of racism didn't end his political career, and does not speak well of the sort machine politics still at work in this country.
    What vile, unforgivable things?

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    What vile, unforgivable things?
    Knock it off, will ya? You know exactly what I'm talking about.

    I realize that it might not mean much to you, as Archbishop of the Church of Byrd, but some of us actually do care about the perspective of racial minorities.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    RIP to the man. Didn't agree with him much, but that matters very little right now. Thoughts are with his family.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Knock it off, will ya? You know exactly what I'm talking about.

    I realize that it might not mean much to you, as Archbishop of the Church of Byrd, but some of us actually do care about the perspective of racial minorities.
    Ahh... we've already been over this. It wasn't unforgivable. Obviously. He actually saw the error of his ways, unlike most politicians.

    Archbishop of the church of byrd? LMFAO He's a ****ing Democrat. I disagreed with him much more than I agreed with him. (same could be said for me and Republicans, though)

    Anywho, I don't condemn people who make mistakes and learn from them. Especially when they admit it to a national audience. I also don't condemn people who learn from experience and change their world views accordingly.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Ahh... we've already been over this. It wasn't unforgivable. Obviously. He actually saw the error of his ways, unlike most politicians.
    Yeah, right. So he was in the KKK when it was politically expedient for him to do so, then left it when it was politically expedient, filibustered the Civil Rights Act when it was politically expedient then changed his mind about that as soon as it became politically expedient. Notice a pattern there? The only thing he "learned" from his mistakes was how to better game the system, and game the system he did. If he had a sincere change of heart we've got no evidence of it, it's much more likely he was just going whichever way the wind blew. Unless you take everything a politician says at face value, in which case I've got a bridge to sell you...

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Archbishop of the church of byrd? LMFAO He's a ****ing Democrat. I disagreed with him much more than I agreed with him. (same could be said for me and Republicans, though)
    I know it's been gone over already, like I said I read through the thread. I wish I'd been by when you were making these absurd claims the first time around, but I still am going to take a crack at you over them. I don't care if you're a Democrat or not, when you make excuses for racism you have to answer for it. Personally I don't get a **** about his pork barrel spending or anything like that. Maybe he had a change of heart, but that doesn't matter one bit, he was on the wrong side of civil rights. It wasn't any more acceptable when Thurmond or Lott did it either. Lott even apologized IIRC, and still got booted. The Democrats should be ashamed at their hypocrisy here.

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Anywho, I don't condemn people who make mistakes and learn from them. Especially when they admit it to a national audience.
    I'm going to hold you to that. I wonder if you felt the same way about Obama and Rev. Wright?
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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yeah, right. So he was in the KKK when it was politically expedient for him to do so,
    Yeah.... before he even started a political career. He was in the KKK for all of a year.

    then left it when it was politically expedient, filibustered the Civil Rights Act when it was politically expedient then changed his mind about that as soon as it became politically expedient. Notice a pattern there? The only thing he "learned" from his mistakes was how to better game the system, and game the system he did. If he had a sincere change of heart we've got no evidence of it, it's much more likely he was just going whichever way the wind blew. Unless you take everything a politician says at face value, in which case I've got a bridge to sell you...
    You infer "political expediency" from his actions. It's easy to infer that he was a man who actually let education and experience change his worldview. You consider that a shortcoming, I find it the exact opposite.

    And, as I've stated, I couldn't ****ing care less what his personal views were. Irrelevant. As long as his policies reflected the views of his electorate, that's all that matters.

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