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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If term limits are good for the chief executive of the United States, why not its legislators?
    Because there isn't institutional knowledge for an executive branch.
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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Because there isn't institutional knowledge for an executive branch.
    There is enough institutional knowledge in the staffers to keep things moving forward. The Founding fathers did NOT intend for lifetime legislators leeching off the system, becoming beholden to special interests, and trying to bring as much federal pork, bacon and ham for their home districts...
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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    There is enough institutional knowledge in the staffers to keep things moving forward. The Founding fathers did NOT intend for lifetime legislators leeching off the system, becoming beholden to special interests, and trying to bring as much federal pork, bacon and ham for their home districts...
    Term limited legislatures are even more beholden to special interests- just look to California. The legislators care more about jumping to a new office after being termed out and they come in high on ideology and not much else. And staffers are not an adequate holder of institutional knowledge. Do you really want Rule by Staffers? Term limited legislators do not work.
    The Makeout Hobo is real, and does indeed travel around the country in his van and make out with ladies... If you meet the Makeout Hobo, it is customary to greet him with a shot of whiskey and a high five (if you are a dude) or passionate makeouts (if you are a lady).

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    I don't disagree with that... I was merely countering his train of thought.
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    I expected better from you. Tit-for-tat, that's how it works, eh? *shakes head
    Still shaking your head ??

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Still shaking your head ??
    Yes... as to why you've chosen to troll me.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    First, I said I believe he did, but one never really knows the goings-on between someone's ears.

    As for my "philosophy"... I won't give an absolute "Yes", but close. I believe Byrd's transgressions were so gross as to prohibit his running, and especially being the head of the party in the Senate.

    Of course, the electorate should have the say, and sadly they kept voting Byrd in. Having said that, I don't think it would be tolerated of an up-and-comer today.

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    Perfectly good reasoning, IMO.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Yes... as to why you've chosen to troll me.
    My favorite pastime... pointing out liberal hypocrisy.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    My favorite pastime... pointing out liberal hypocrisy.
    Great. When you're done cherry picking my posts (soooooo Glenn Beck of you!!!), please take the time to add some value to this thread by posting something constructive.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Great. When you're done cherry picking my posts (soooooo Glenn Beck of you!!!), please take the time to add some value to this thread by posting something constructive.
    I'm not cherry picking your posts, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of your reasoning.

    By the way, your quote of Brit Hume is taken completely out of context (sooooo Randi Rhodes of you !!!).

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    Re: Robert Byrd, longest-serving member of Congress, dead at 92

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Because there isn't institutional knowledge for an executive branch.
    Institutional knowledge can be garnered through local, and state governments... if that is what a voter seeks. I also think it is highly overrated.

    We would have been far better off without professional politicians pushing agenda's that undermine commerce and Liberty.

    In fact, before Senators were elected, I do believe the idea was to have our representatives come from their areas, serve a short stint and then return home. The representatives shouldn't be too far detached from recent events in their towns and cities. Today's politician too often becomes a DC animal... and worse...

    Senators that only know politics... and have never experienced the private sector, or experienced little of it, like Byrd, Biden, Schumer, Frank and Obama have done greater damage than a revolving door of local yokels coming and going could ever dream of doing... because they would do less and be more cautious about their actions.

    It should almost be mandatory for a representative to have years of experience in the private sector... it can never be, but it would be wise... as noted by...

    ... GeorgeMcGovern in a little celebrated article:
    George McGovern laments that after his experience in the bed-and-breakfast business he realizes that laws and regulations pertaining to small business are actually hurting the lower-wage workers whom he had tried to help during his entire political career. With his Stratford Inn in bankruptcy, McGovern now says:

    In retrospect, I wish I had known more about the hazards and difficulties of such a business.... I wish that during the years I was in public office I had this firsthand experience about the difficulties business people face every day. That knowledge would have made me a better Senator and a more understanding presidential contender... To create job opportunities, we need entrepreneurs who will risk their capital against an expected payoff. Too often, however, public policy does not consider whether we are choking off those opportunities.

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