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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well, if that's the case, why do BOTH parties think it is a waste of time and money?
    Because pro-illegal scum in both parties have their tongues in pretty deep when it comes to tossing the salad of illegals and pro-illegals. These sell out degenerate scum in both parties who will do everything they can to undermine border security and anti-illegal immigration laws, that is who saying fences and walls are a waste of time.
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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Because pro-illegal scum in both parties have their tongues in pretty deep when it comes to tossing the salad of illegals and pro-illegals. These sell out degenerate scum in both parties who will do everything they can to undermine border security and anti-illegal immigration laws, that is who saying fences and walls are a waste of time.
    The truth of the matter is that you will never get, the Dem, Rep or Libertarian Party to build that solid wall. Minor modifications in the visa rules is probably, the best you can hope for.

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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    As long as drug runners can make zillions of dollars, there’s always going to be people lining up to run drugs. And they'll always be coming up with crazy and ingenious ways to do it.

    Anyone who fails to grasp that is a ****ing moron.
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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post
    As long as drug runners can make zillions of dollars, there’s always going to be people lining up to run drugs. And they'll always be coming up with crazy and ingenious ways to do it.

    Anyone who fails to grasp that is a ****ing moron.
    Like Reagan who focused the lion's share on money on interdiction?

    What I don't understand is why generally those big on the free market want more money for interdiction rather then stopping demand by eliminating demand. Who supplies unwanted goods? Communists. Who buys unwanted goods? Communists at gun point. Other then that, no demand will end the drug war.
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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Only one thing to do when such a thing is found.

    Flood it with CS gas and see how many puked out Invader drug runners pop up on our side. Arrest them, imprison them, then deport them when their sentence is up.

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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What's all the hoopla over building a fence or wall at the Southern Border? You can go around it, over it, dig tunnels...or go through Canada.

    A fence will not stop illegals, nor will a wall.
    Of course a fence will stop 95% if the illegals.

    Land mines on fields on our side of the fence will stop a further high percentage.

    Arresting and fining any and all who provide the least bit of assistance to Invaders will reduce cut the Invading force by a percentage.

    Arresting and fining all who hire illegals will disincentivize the Invaders and thereby significantly reduce the number of Invaders.

    Making the act of Invading a felony will reduce the number of invaders by a fraction.

    Arresting and fining those who provide housing to Invaders will reduce the number of Invaders by a fraction.

    Multiply all those fractional reductions together and you're looking at a nearly complete barrier to invasion.

    100%? Not necessary and unrealistic. 99%? Not difficult at all.

    And then the US should also start drilling our own oil and cease buying Mexican oil until Mexico starts respecting our national border.

    Not to mention the fact that if a fence wasn't effective, all the traitors promoting the Invasion would be supportive of the wasted effort. OF COURSE fences and walls are effective. That's why cities for thousands of years had walls around them.
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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    One would have thought with all the experience that Americans had with Tunnels in Vietnam during that war, that they would by now have been able to detect Tunnels anywhere.

    Apparently not, as in this incident was an accidental discovery by a Border patrol.
    It's not like the Border Patrol has the support of the US government to be effective. Quite the opposite, with President's Clinton, Bush, and Messiah actively pressing for amnesty for criminals who flaunt our immigration laws and disrespect the nation they're attempting to subvert.

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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well, if that's the case, why do BOTH parties think it is a waste of time and money?
    Maybe the tea baggers and conservatives are not thought to be a "party".
    Mexico should have a very red face over the conditions in their land and we should be ashamed that so many of our people are using drugs.

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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    What can be done if neither party wants to directly address this problem? Reps supported by business that make millions off illegals and Dems who have a built in automatic voting block of illegals and the whole bleeding heart BS

    Again, neither side gives a **** about our Nations borders.

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    Re: Drug route runs 130 feet under Rio Grande

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What's all the hoopla over building a fence or wall at the Southern Border? You can go around it, over it, dig tunnels...or go through Canada.

    A fence will not stop illegals, nor will a wall.
    By itself? No. However it would be extremely helpful when combined with other measures. Sure you can go under it, however major tunnels are costly to build, or are dangerous in and of themselves. Lowering the need to watch the whole border closely allows for more chance of watching for such things being built as well. Additionally the amount of people able to pass through a tunnel rather than over the entire border is lower. Going around is possible but again, more difficult. Going into Canada requires plane or boat travel into that country which again, is not simple, to even then go in. If you're talking about immigrants in general sneaking in from Canada, over 80% of our illegal immigrants in this country are from Latin America countries. Individuals that would have a very difficult time getting into Canada then getting into the U.S. When you have two leaks, one that is a drip and one that is gushing, you don't refuse to patch up the gushing one unless you do the drip at the same time.

    A wall or fence won't solve it all...its gotta be in conjunction with enforcement of laws against businesses...followed by legislation on what to do with those here, changes to immigration policy allowing a better temporary visa program, and a look at our laws in regards to things like anchor babies and social programs to remove incentives.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Well, if that's the case, why do BOTH parties think it is a waste of time and money?
    Likely because of a plethora of reasons. Some perhaps because they honestly believe it. Others because they don't want to stop illegal immigration. Others because they want the potential voting block and more illegals in means more chance for amnesty. Others because their business interests want the cheap labor. Others because they're scared that it'll cause htem voter blowback from the ever growing hispanic voting pouplation.

    There's a NUMBER of reasons other than "unfeasable" or "won't work".

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