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'Secret' law lets police arrest for failing to show ID near summit

Deuce said:
You seem to have this problem in your brain where you extrapolate everything that anyone says to pretty absurd extents.
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Oh yes...THAT must be it. OR...it could be the outright absurdity of your comments...

The outrage is PALPABLE. In fact...the protesting during the Bush admin...that I guess is to be expected...but when you throw betrayal in the mix...Obama after all was elected because he was the anti-Bush...why TAHT explains all the protests on campuses...the clogging of the streets...the marches on Wasingt...oh..wait...NONE of that **** is happening.

No...a fair example of the 'outrage' this last few years looks more like..."I am just so mad at Obama for...oh...wait. Excuse me...Miss? I orderd the carmel machiato...half soy, half skinny, with a bean sprout whipped cream...this tastes like it has whole milk..."
 
Agent Ferris said:
K upon checking it was Orion who said that, you said this:

"Isn't it weird how conservatives tend to completely flip their views on personal liberties when it comes to law enforcement issues?"

My reply works equally well as a response to this.



By any definition of the word, yes.



Yes.



They are victims of theft by the state, I never entered into any contractual agreement with anyone granting them the right to use the capital generated through my labour to produce any road or school nor have I agreed to make use of any such road or school.



No that would be a statist thing, I understand that you support government tyranny I on the other hand support individual liberty and the right of self ownership.
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I suggest you move to some central African country that has no functioning government, then, because you seem to oppose the governmental ability to actually do anything. Those soldiers, tanks, planes, rockets, and satellites that protect you, how exactly do you think they get paid for?
 
Deuce said:
I suggest you move to some central African country that has no functioning government, then
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Name one which has an advanced market economic system. FYI civil war =/= anarchy.

, because you seem to oppose the governmental ability to actually do anything.
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Anything which infringes upon my right of self ownership and violates the non-aggression principle, yes. The legitimate roll of the government (assuming that there is one) is to defend those rights not to infringe upon them.

Those soldiers, tanks, planes, rockets, and satellites that protect you, how exactly do you think they get paid for?
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Through theft. I never agreed for the state to confiscate my capital and transfer it to state corporatists to produce weapons. You don't need the state to provide for defense, private security and defense agencies could provide those services and it could be provided cheaper through dominant assurance contracts entered into voluntarily with their consumers rather than through a giant racketeering scheme.
 
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Agent Ferris said:
Name one which has an advanced market economic system. FYI civil war =/= anarchy.



Anything which infringes upon my right of self ownership and violates the non-aggression principle, yes. The legitimate roll of the government (assuming that there is one) is to defend those rights not to infringe upon them.



Through theft. I never agreed for the state to confiscate my capital and transfer it to state corporatists to produce weapons. You don't need the state to provide for defense, private security and defense agencies could provide those services and it could be provided cheaper through dominant assurance contracts entered into voluntarily with their consumers rather than through a giant racketeering scheme.
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Free market national defense. Ok then.
So explain to me how a government is to defend any of your rights if it doesn't employ any people to enforce such a defense?

You know running our country this way wouldn't have made it out of the 19th century, right?
 
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Deuce said:
Free market national defense. Ok then.
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Better than a giant legalized racketeering scheme.

So explain to me how a government is to defend any of your rights if it doesn't employ any people to enforce such a defense?
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I don't really see a necessary roll for the state. The state does not defend rights it violates them.

You know running our country this way wouldn't have made it out of the 19th century, right?
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Why would a contractual society based on the non-aggression principle in which individuals are entitled to self ownership not have made it out of the 19th century?
 
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chevydriver1123 said:
Update

The violent "anarchists" seem to be government thugs in disguise.

The Toronto G20 Riot Fraud: Undercover Police engaged in Purposeful Provocation
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OF COURSE the anarchists are government thugs in disguise... they get CAUGHT EVERY TIME!!!!

Montebello, Que - They were WEARING POLICE ISSUE BOOTS!
Pittsburgh - Once the anarchists were finished were seen walking into a temporary police base of operations
London - 50 photographers surrounding 1 anarchist throwing a brick through a window... can we say 'photo op'?
And so on... EVERY TIME!!!

Finally it's not a 'conspiracy theory'.... I've only been telling people this for almost 10 YEARS that it's the disguised police attacking police lines to legitimize the police into attacking the legitimate protests.

It's worked for so many years IN SPITE of getting caught almost EVERY TIME... why would they stop now??
 
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