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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    maybe mcchrystal didn't feel obama was kissing his ass enough.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    You, sir, are a horrible person. I admire that about you.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    What is odd is Obi said McChrystal followed his orders.
    COIN was a passive response.

    This is not The Obi Plan we had.

    Seems like the problem the foot soldiers complained about is about to result in more dead terrorists.
    I wonder if Petraeus will ask for more troops.

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    The current rules of engagement are resulting in a lot of US military casualties, even as they protect Afghan civilians.
    The war has become unpopular, and daily headlines about 10 or 15 more dead American boys are not helping the cause.
    If Petraeus can significantly reduce US casualties in Afghanistan, even at the cost of the death of a few more Afghan civilians, he may be able to buy more time- possibly even another troop increase, for this war.

    On the other hand, I don't know how long Petraeus will remain in charge.
    This may be only a temporary thing, for appearance sake, to get us past the whole McChrystal debacle.
    I've heard rumors that he's dying of metastatic prostate cancer.
    He's passed out in public on more than one occasion recently, and he does not appear to me to be a well man.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    This was not just US troops but NATO. Are you saying McCrystal did not have to get permission for this from other countries?

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    General Petraeus is an expert in this kind of warfare. He literally wrote the book on it. Assuming he is given reasonable independence of action, I expect he will do very well and achieve substantial results, though the effects may take time.
    Technically he didn't write it entirely. He had a large amount of experts like former Lt Col. Nagl who did much of the lifting.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    The current rules of engagement are resulting in a lot of US military casualties, even as they protect Afghan civilians.
    The war has become unpopular, and daily headlines about 10 or 15 more dead American boys are not helping the cause.
    If Petraeus can significantly reduce US casualties in Afghanistan, even at the cost of the death of a few more Afghan civilians, he may be able to buy more time- possibly even another troop increase, for this war.

    On the other hand, I don't know how long Petraeus will remain in charge.
    This may be only a temporary thing, for appearance sake, to get us past the whole McChrystal debacle.
    I've heard rumors that he's dying of metastatic prostate cancer.
    He's passed out in public on more than one occasion recently, and he does not appear to me to be a well man.
    He's passed out in public on more than one occasion recently, and he does not appear to me to be a well man.
    Probably because the General doesn't get any sleep, running a war isn't a 9 to 5 job. I think this would be taxing on anyone who runs a campaign not to mention Patreaus does worry about his troops.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    There wasn't an attack. There was a statement of fact.

    I am happy to see the troops be able to fight. They didn't like the existing rules of engagement. Some were so despondent they did not feel they were winning.

    This is good news.
    Now, will he ask for more troops and will Obama agree?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    The current rules of engagement are resulting in a lot of US military casualties, even as they protect Afghan civilians.
    The war has become unpopular, and daily headlines about 10 or 15 more dead American boys are not helping the cause.
    If Petraeus can significantly reduce US casualties in Afghanistan, even at the cost of the death of a few more Afghan civilians, he may be able to buy more time- possibly even another troop increase, for this war.
    Great plan! Reduce our casualties so we can stay longer... and suffer more casualties!
    Longest war in our history. I think we made our point, what the hell are we still doing in that craphole?

    The other issue is that every civilian casualty boosts recruitment for the enemy.
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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Ya know, when a President like Obama is more interested in socialism than security nothing good will come out of this because Eikenberry and special envoy Holbrooke will still be pulling the strings
    Please show me where he is not interested in security.
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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    This started in Iraq. The left wanted more politically correct fighting and the civilians that protect the terrorist are more important than victory.
    Please provide a link from a media source that is not right or left.
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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by TBone View Post
    Please show me where he is not interested in security.
    TBone come on, ric27 does have a point, look at your own state and the border and immigration issue and what Obama is doing about it.

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