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Thread: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    My brother and I have spoken at length about military matters, and he's far more experienced than your son, but that doesn't mean I know enough about the military to question or second guess the decisions of a general.

    Former general.



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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

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    An obvious indication that the man is a moron.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Yeah, I don't understand closing the fast food chains and first-run theaters because "this is a warzone, not an amusement park".
    I mean, we allegedly "won" in Iraq, and bases there are a lot larger and more like "an amusement park" than Bagram or any other base in Afghanistan.

    On the other hand, my friend recently returned from Afghanistan, and she told me that obesity among soldiers is becoming a major problem over there. Maybe McCrystal just wants them in top physical condition, for their own safety. Top fighting form.
    McCrystal himself is a rather spartan individual; one doubts he eats much Burger King.
    He allegedly gets up and jogs like ten miles every morning at 5 am, and that's his recreation for the day.
    I've heard Petraeus is somewhat similar in his habits, although he is talking about possibly bringing Burger King back... or at least saying he won't rule it out.

    Gen. Petraeus Not Ruling Out Bringing Burger King Back To Afghanistan - The Consumerist

    Today I feel more optimistic; I think things might get a little better for our troops in Afghanistan under Petraeus.
    Several enlisted folks I've talked to are optimistic about the change.
    Thanks for posting that. There could be a whole debate about whether closing Burger King was right or not, but I think that the decision was definitely departure from precedent. The decision does has it upsides and also it's downsides, but I think it says something about General McChrystal. I think that General Petraeus might be reversing the decision also says something too.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by alms View Post
    An obvious indication that the man is a moron.
    He irrefutably made some very questionable decisions.
    Taking away the fast food places may have been one of them.
    Time will tell.
    If Petraeus brings them back, and morale goes up, and the war starts turning in our favor... then "taking away Burger King" will no doubt go down in history as yet another of McCrystal's missteps. A minor one, comparatively.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Well, to his credit, I don't think it was a "brash" decision.
    I do think it was an unnecessary one, however.
    McCrystal presented it as a supply issue, as if it were a choice between "Burger King or your mail", or "Burger King or ammunition".
    I believe, however, that this is a false dichotomy.
    There are many supplies trucked in to Afghanistan daily that are not crucial to survival.
    If the fast food joints help keep the soldiers' morale up, then I don't see why they shouldn't have them.
    I guess brash is the wrong word to use, I would say it was a unique or different decision, departure from precedent too. My initial feeling when I learned of it was that I opposed it, but I guess Petraeus will sort it out to see what's the best thing to do.

    Haha, I need that thesaurus you got.
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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    I guess brash is the wrong word to use, I would say it was a unique or different decision, departure from precedent too. My initial feeling when I learned of it was that I opposed it, but I guess Petraeus will sort it out to see what's the best thing to do.

    It just gives the impression- from a mom perspective- that he's not a nice man.

    I guess that's the bottom line.
    Our troops are enduring so much hardship over there.
    Why shouldn't they have whatever little comfort or entertainment is possible during their off time?

    It's not that Burger King itself is so important.
    I just want someone in charge who cares about the well-being of the troops. Their physical and emotional well-being.
    Why make things more lonely and depressing for them than they already are, by taking away these small pleasures?

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    He irrefutably made some very questionable decisions.
    People make "questionable" decisions all the time.

    Taking away the fast food places may have been one of them.
    Time will tell.
    If Petraeus brings them back, and morale goes up, and the war starts turning in our favor... then "taking away Burger King" will no doubt go down in history as yet another of McCrystal's missteps. A minor one, comparatively.
    You can't be serious.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Former general.


    Do you mean McChrystal? He's not a former general.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    It just gives the impression- from a mom perspective- that he's not a nice man.

    I guess that's the bottom line.
    Our troops are enduring so much hardship over there.
    Why shouldn't they have whatever little comfort or entertainment is possible during their off time?

    It's not that Burger King itself is so important.
    I just want someone in charge who cares about the well-being of the troops. Their physical and emotional well-being.
    Why make things more lonely and depressing for them than they already are, by taking away these small pleasures?
    Yeah, I'm thinking the same thing. I'm thinking that the food there is probably pretty bad they could use a whopper once in a while. But there's a whole range of debate on this issue, some of it I found here in the comments: FOXNews.com - Goodbye, Burger King: Top U.S. General Orders Closure of Western Comforts in Kandahar. Some say the people in the FOBs don't get whoppers so why should the main base people, but then others say that the FOB people rotate through the main bases so they should have a chance to get food when they get the chance. There's lots of pros and cons, but I think to make that decision was different.

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    Re: Petraeus to Modify Afghanistan Rules of Engagement, Source Says

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    Three out of how many total, if I may ask?
    That was the entire hide.
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