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Sex domain gets official approval - .xxx

Well, no one has any issue with you having such an opinion. The issue stems from your desire to make everyone else in the world abide by your opinion.

The two are one and the same. My opinion isn't that pornography is distasteful, it is that pornography is actively harmful to the people who make it, the people who consume it, and everyone that it touches. The desire to protect people from this harm follows inevitably.
 
I WAS a prostitute.

Is this a serious comment? I do believe you.. I am just a bit surprised, by the comment. Never mind with answering the question.

But, I do think it is exploitative. The word prostitute even means that those who engage in it, are giving up their true value, in return for financial payments. And, this does not just apply to the sex industry.

But, just out of curiousity, I want to ask, why did you give up being a prostitute? If you were not being exploited in your own mind, then it is easy money, isnt it?
 
The two are one and the same. My opinion isn't that pornography is distasteful, it is that pornography is actively harmful to the people who make it, the people who consume it, and everyone that it touches. The desire to protect people from this harm follows inevitably.

Your opinion is that it harms. And it is just that... an opinion.
 
Well, would you consider working in the sex industry? You like sex, dont you? And, you could get payed for it. If you wouldnt do it for a living, then why not? If you would, I think you may be naive.

''Abused women are irrelevant to the industry itself.''
Like sugar is irrelevant to the candy itself.

WOW
you do know that women and minorities and minors have probably gotten abused in every industry right? lets get rid of them all!!!!!!
hell pro athletes get abused too, hidden steroid use, injury cover ups etc, all the pressure get rid of all sports also

sorry, no buying it, you enforce the laws and regulate laws not kill all industry
 
The two are one and the same. My opinion isn't that pornography is distasteful, it is that pornography is actively harmful to the people who make it, the people who consume it, and everyone that it touches. The desire to protect people from this harm follows inevitably.

more opinion that you are again welcome to has is everybody else
 
Pornography is not sex. It is at best a poor substitute for sex. Pornography is to sex what candy is to nutrition.

And... ???

I was responding to a post in which someone said that saying all pornography is degrading is like saying all sex is degrading. I was attempting to establish that there is a major and important distinction between the two.
 
Is this a serious comment? I do believe you.. I am just a bit surprised, by the comment. Never mind with answering the question.
Entirely serious.

But, I do think it is exploitative. The word prostitute even means that those who engage in it, are giving up their true value, in return for financial payments. And, this does not just apply to the sex industry.
No, it means that someone is perfoming a service for money. We all do it, every day.

But, just out of curiousity, I want to ask, why did you give up being a prostitute? If you were not being exploited in your own mind, then it is easy money, isnt it?
Oh, it was stupid easy quick cash, and that's what I was going for. Once I had paid off the bills I needed to pay off, the risk involved with it wasn't worth it to me any longer. If it were legal, I'd still be doing it most likely. But I had to weigh the risk of jailtime against the cash. I was, at the time, working for the DoD. When some of my clients were working in the White House, for the CIA, etc, etc... it was getting too close to home. Too easy for me to be "outed" and lose my "day job" and/or go to prison. When I passed one of my clients outside the Pentagon one day and we recognized each other, it was kind of a scary moment for both of us. Well, maybe not scary as just... hmm... it just made me realize how close to home it was getting and how risky the behavior was with regard to going to jail.

Once I get my buff body back, I'm seriously considering looking into it again. I'd love to be able to retire early.
 
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Your opinion is that it harms. And it is just that... an opinion.

more opinion that you are again welcome to has is everybody else

And like me, you want your opinions to be the law. The only difference is that the law doesn't agree with me any more, and hasn't for more than forty years. Laws themselves are nothing more than opinions enforced at gunpoint.
 
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I was responding to a post in which someone said that saying all pornography is degrading is like saying all sex is degrading. I was attempting to establish that there is a major and important distinction between the two.

There's also a correlation. And, that they are different isn't really the relevant point he was making. Just because certain instances of something could be considered degrading doesn't mean that all instances of it are.
 
There's also a correlation. And, that they are different isn't really the relevant point he was making. Just because certain instances of something could be considered degrading doesn't mean that all instances of it are.

exactly what my point was
 
And like me, you want your opinion to be the law. The only difference is that the law doesn't agree with me any more, and hasn't for more than forty years. Laws themselves are nothing more than opinions enforced at gunpoint.

huh? in this case who wants my opinion to be law? I didn't I was merely saying what you were saying is opinion, you seem to take this leap often.

If government wanted to make porn illegal so be it, since im not in the industry I probably wouldn't vote on it. Don't see what their grounds would be for such though? cant see whats exactly illegal about porn itself that would be different than any other type of video and I also doubt it would ever happen since it makes way to much money.

Correct me if im wrong but isn't it like top 10 money maker on the planet? just a guess thought a read something like that though
 
I was responding to a post in which someone said that saying all pornography is degrading is like saying all sex is degrading. I was attempting to establish that there is a major and important distinction between the two.

Id say this is true. Anything that has a price tag attached to it is no longer priceless, and thus is greatly reduced in value. The question is, should people be allowed to put a price tag on absolutely anything and everything, or should they be protected from allowing certain aspects of themselves to be exploited, when they put a price tag on anything they choose, no matter what their motivation for choosing it is.
 
No, it means that someone is perfoming a service for money. We all do it, every day.

Well yeah, this is true, but we select what we put a financial price on. Some things for many would never be for sale.

What got you into prostitution, in the first place? It isnt something one decides, like one decides to be a nurse, lawyer..., is it? Another nosey question, asked out of curiousity, rather than being relevant to the topic...

If you do get back into it, how long would it take, before you can retire from earning money, for good? Some prostitues earn incredible amounts of money. But, many blow it on drug habits and other stuff, that prevents them from really benefiting from the financial side.
 
Correct me if im wrong but isn't it like top 10 money maker on the planet? just a guess thought a read something like that though

For some women it is quite an earner. The only jobs where women generally get payed more than men do, for doing the same job is prostitution and modelling.

I think though, if women had ever expienced true equality, they would not choose sex prostitution or any profession based on exploiting their looks and bodies, in order to earn. 1% of the worlds wealth is owned by women. Prostitution for women is one of the few ways that have been easily available to them to earn large amounts of money relatively easily.

Women are generally excluded from earning shady money, through 'gentlemens agreements' and the like, that apply throughout the financial, political, religious... power systems around the world.
 
Well yeah, this is true, but we select what we put a financial price on. Some things for many would never be for sale.
I agree. For instance, I just can't see myself cleaning out sewers for a living. I would have to be pretty ****ing hard up to do that. I also would have to be pretty hard up to waitress again. Putting myself through such abuse for so little cash is pretty low on my list of behaviors I'd care to repeat. Each of us certainly does decide what services we are willing to perform and for how much. Which is exactly as it should be.

What got you into prostitution, in the first place?
It isnt something one decides, like one decides to be a nurse, lawyer..., is it? Another nosey question, asked out of curiousity, rather than being relevant to the topic...
The need for money, just like any other job. You think I'd be working the job I have now if I didn't need the money? ;) In particular, being an escort was just a very high monetary return for extremely low time and effort. I could have worked a part time job waitressing at night for minimum wage. Making all of maybe $10/hr for a few hours in the evenings. Pulling in $200/week extra minus taxes while being exhausted all the time and working my ass off. Or, I could get paid $500 - 700++/hr. for really doing very little. I mean, very rarely did the guys actually use the whole hour. So really, it was $500 - upwards of a $1000 for sometimes 15 minutes. LOL ;)

Really, the choice was easy.

If you do get back into it, how long would it take, before you can retire from earning money, for good?
Depends on how much I'm able to pull in. It's not a job I care to do every day. Previously I only turned a couple tricks a week. But that was well over 1k a week for less than 2hrs of work. Sooo.... if I kept with that, I'd say I could pay off my debt, buy my sailboat, and save some money up to live off of in about 3yrs easy. I plan on 5 yrs currently without the 'side job', but the more I think about it, the more I realize that's really a stretch.

Some prostitues earn incredible amounts of money. But, many blow it on drug habits and other stuff, that prevents them from really benefiting from the financial side.
Ditto for people in many jobs. It's sad to see people waste their lives away like that, but that is their choice after all. I enjoy my drugs on occasion, and have for many years. But I maintain a tight control over that sort of behavior. I've been down that road and experienced hitting the bottom. I don't care to do it again. However, I think that's what it takes for some people to gain the willpower and desire to make a change.
 
''I'd say I could pay off my debt, ''

Strange that you actually got in debt, when you earned so much money. When I used to work fulltime, it took me around 2 weeks to earn what you earned in 2 hours. And, I managed world travel, as well living debt free(appart from the house mortgage I had, for 10 years) on it.
 
As long as porn companies aren't being forced into getting the new domain, I don't have a problem with this. Otherwise, it is encroachment into net neutrality and I am completely against it. The issue of porn being moral or not is beside the point. Net neutrality takes precedence. We cannot afford for this priceless resource to be controlled by any government agency.
 
''I'd say I could pay off my debt, ''

Strange that you actually got in debt, when you earned so much money. When I used to work fulltime, it took me around 2 weeks to earn what you earned in 2 hours. And, I managed world travel, as well living debt free(appart from the house mortgage I had, for 10 years) on it.

I didn't do it for that long and it was years ago. I was in financial difficulty thanks to a asshole boyfriend, I had to declare bankruptcy and I was having difficulty paying my rent (which in DC, for a basement apartment, was $1200). I had to do *something*. Working as an escort was the fastest, easiest fix. I didn't bank a bunch of savings, I opted not to do that due to the risk in the area I was in. (meaning that I stopped doing it before I had banked a bunch of money) I wish I HAD banked some now, but at the time, I just assessed that the risk of going to jail was too high. Not to mention the "scandal" possibilities. I didn't want that kind of attention.

My point was, though, that the whole drugged out hooker on a street-corner with an abusive pimp is what people think of when they hear "prostitute". But that's just not the case. Yes, that is one aspect of it, but those gals are the minority. They are just the most visible part of prostitution. The escorts, who make up the majority of prostitutes, make bank, do not have "pimps" (not in the traditional sense of the word), are not abused, and are not illiterate, drugged out gals. Many of them are business women, teachers, college students, etc, etc. I was not even one of the higher class call girls. Why? Because I couldn't AFFORD to be. You should have seen some of the requirements for some of the agencies. I didn't have the wardrobe! LOL And in some cases, I didn't have the DEGREES necessary. The women that I knew were intelligent, educated women. Some with families. The men that were our clients were intelligent, educated, financially well off men, some of whom were VERY attractive. Yes, there were the occasional "weirdos", but that's the other thing... if I got to a place and saw the guy and decided I didn't want to do it after all, guess what? I didn't. I walked away and told the agency to call another girl. And, If I wanted a body-guard, I had one with one phone call.

There are ****ty aspects with every job, but you can't dismiss a whole industry based on the lowest common denominators. Is there crime involved with the sex industry? Without a doubt. But there is crime in every industry. You don't scrap the industry because of the crime. You crack down on the CRIME.
 
'' I just assessed that the risk of going to jail was too high.''

Is it actually illegal to be a girlfriend who will cost? I think, that is a grey area that cant be proven as professional. Gifts or wages? Can it be determined?



''I didn't want that kind of attention.''

The customers are the only ones who know what happened for sure, and they woudnt tell surely? They dont want that kind of attention either.



''You don't scrap the industry because of the crime. ''

What if you had a daughter? Would you mind if she was lured into the sex industry for the cash? Laws should also protect against this type of availibility of opportunity, that many might not take, if they had options to earn big, in another area. Just because women are excluded from the worlds highest earners, shouldnt mean we are not protected from some of the options available, that we could choose for want of an alternative.
 
Speaking of prostitution. Why is it legal to pay a man and woman to have sex for a porno shoot when it is illegal to sell your body for sex to a client?
 
Governments have perfectly valid reasons for attempting to halt the spread of pornography. It is corrosive to the moral fiber of nations.

Yet the government has no business telling me what is moral and what is not moral. That is a dangerous game to play.
 
I think this is a pretty good idea. It clearly designates websites as pornographic. If they made it mandatory that all websites that host pornography be under the .xxx domain then I think things like child porn could be more easily removed

Unless they want to get caught, i can almost guarantee nobody is going to open a child porn .xxx website.
It just makes them an easy target.
 
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Yet the government has no business telling me what is moral and what is not moral. That is a dangerous game to play.

Law making is more complicated, than the government simply telling people what to do. At least in functional democracies it is.
 
Unless they want to get caught, i can almost guarantee nobody is going to open a child porn .xxx website.

Good point, but if they don't register with the .xxx web domain then they will be caught for using another domain and then charged for hosting child porn. Regardless, I think something should be enforced when it comes to minors viewing and buying porn. A "click here to say you are 18" or "leave if you aren't 18" sentence on a porn site does nothing to deter minors from viewing and buying porn.
 
Unless they want to get caught, i can almost guarantee nobody is going to open a child porn .xxx website.

They could just use servers in dodgy countries and portals to avoid their location being detectable.
 
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