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    White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    The Obama administration has tapped an outspoken critic of immigration enforcement on the local level to oversee and promote partnerships between federal and local officials.

    Harold Hurtt, a former police chief in Houston and Phoenix, has been hired as the director for the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement's Office of State and Local Coordination. Starting July 6, Hurtt will supervise outreach and communication between ICE, local law enforcement agencies, tribal leaders and representatives from non-governmental organizations.
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Regardless of what you think about immigration, hiring a vehement critic of local enforcement to be in charge of coordinating state and local enforcement is a bit ridic.
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    I see this as proof that Obama wants amnesty instead of something actually done about illegal immigration. Most logical people would asking isn't that like GLAD appointing Fred Phelps to be in charge of their organization or the president appointing Code Pink in charge of the military.
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I see this as proof that Obama wants amnesty instead of something actually done about illegal immigration. Most logical people would asking isn't that like GLAD appointing Fred Phelps to be in charge of their organization or the president appointing Code Pink in charge of the military.
    I agree. At the same time, I somewhat support this type of move. Not so much because I'm in favor of giving them amnesty (I personally would prefer they returned to their country of origin), but I feel hunting down the millions of illegal immigrants is inhumane. And it would be impossible to find them all. Some of these people either are in America because they are looking for work or they just want to escape the war-zone that is Mexico right now... and they don't always feel they can wait for bureaucracy to get them legal status in the U.S., or they just don't have the money for it in the first place.

    But I'm just as angry as the next person about how Obama is failing to do something about the illegal immigrants that continue to come into the U.S.
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    What Obama is doing is called politics. He is pandering to the Mexicans. This will backfire on him.

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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    What Obama is doing is called politics. He is pandering to the Mexicans. This will backfire on him.
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I agree. At the same time, I somewhat support this type of move. Not so much because I'm in favor of giving them amnesty (I personally would prefer they returned to their country of origin), but I feel hunting down the millions of illegal immigrants is inhumane. And it would be impossible to find them all. Some of these people either are in America because they are looking for work or they just want to escape the war-zone that is Mexico right now... and they don't always feel they can wait for bureaucracy to get them legal status in the U.S., or they just don't have the money for it in the first place.

    But I'm just as angry as the next person about how Obama is failing to do something about the illegal immigrants that continue to come into the U.S.
    IF we enforced our immigration laws and held employers accountable for hiring illegals, I think a large number of them will go home on their own. Not sure where you're getting the notion that enforcing our laws would be "inhumane".
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I agree. At the same time, I somewhat support this type of move. Not so much because I'm in favor of giving them amnesty (I personally would prefer they returned to their country of origin), but I feel hunting down the millions of illegal immigrants is inhumane. And it would be impossible to find them all. Some of these people either are in America because they are looking for work or they just want to escape the war-zone that is Mexico right now... and they don't always feel they can wait for bureaucracy to get them legal status in the U.S., or they just don't have the money for it in the first place.

    But I'm just as angry as the next person about how Obama is failing to do something about the illegal immigrants that continue to come into the U.S.
    How do you not see the difference between hunting them down, and finding out someone is illegal when they do something else against the law? There aren't that many local law enforcements (I've actually heard of none) that go door to door checking to see if the residents are there legally. Or who randomly stop people, on the street, in the malls, at random businesses, to ask to see their papers. That, to me, would be hunting them down. Even the new, controversial laws regarding immigration and local law enforcement, the local cops can't ask unless they're already being questioned/stopped/suspected for/of something else.
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Quote Originally Posted by Jucon View Post
    I agree. At the same time, I somewhat support this type of move. Not so much because I'm in favor of giving them amnesty (I personally would prefer they returned to their country of origin), but I feel hunting down the millions of illegal immigrants is inhumane. And it would be impossible to find them all. Some of these people either are in America because they are looking for work or they just want to escape the war-zone that is Mexico right now....
    Why is it the pro-illegals love to pretend that the only solutions to deal with illegals are amnesty or mass round up and deportation(and not only that pretend that it is either inhumane to kick out trespassers or that it is impossible to round up illegals)? Allowing local police to verify the legal status of anyone they pull over for a traffic violation or some other form of lawful contact will drive out illegals, so will denying tax payer funded services,cracking down on dishonest businesses who hire illegals and others who aid illegals, removing the part of the immigration and nationality act of 1965 that allows for the chain migration of relatives other than spouse or minor will drive out illegals. And there all sorts of other things that can be done to drive out illegals.


    and they don't always feel they can wait for bureaucracy to get them legal status in the U.S., or they just don't have the money for it in the first place.
    As far as I know we let in more people into the US than any other country on earth. The only things that should be done is streamline the whole system to make background, criminal and medical checks more easier and we should demand standards for those wishing to immigrate here. A little bureaucracy is good when it comes to immigration. Our borders should not be wide open for anyone wishing to come here. They should have to jump through some hoops. They should have to know or learn english, not be a burden to tax payers, have some sort of valuable skills, not have any dangerous diseases, only swear allegiance to the US(no dual citizenship,no flying other countries flags or speaking other countries languages), pass a criminal back ground checks, not be affiliated with any anti-American or terrorist groups, come and stay here legally, not a birth-right citizenship tourist, and must value all our constitutional rights.
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    Re: White House Picks Critic of Local Immigration Enforcement for Key Role at ICE

    Do we have any info as to how he criticizes local enforcement? Does he say that it shouldn't happen at all or does he say it should be done differently? Criticism of local enforcement doesn't necessarily make him a bad choice, since clearly our enforcement in this country is not very good overall.

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