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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Great use of tax dollars...

    California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs - latimes.com

    "Reporting from Sacramento — California welfare recipients are able to use state-issued debit cards to withdraw cash on gaming floors in more than half of the casinos in the state, a Los Angeles Times review of records found.

    The cards, provided by the Department of Social Services to help recipients feed and clothe their families, work in automated teller machines at 32 of 58 tribal casinos and 47 of 90 state-licensed poker rooms, the review found."

    And hey...why not...its THEIRS...they should be able to use it how they want...
    My guess is that the 79 ATMs in casinos that can authenticate the benefits cards are probably using the same back end processor and it happens to be compliant with the benefits carrier. Probably has nothing to do with casinos and welfare and more to do with the high probability that they both use the same one merchant link out of 7 or 8 to choose from.

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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    I assume that all ATM's have standardized authentication mechanisms, so the cards should work in the Casino just like anywhere else. Its a problem that welfare people are going to the Casino at all, but that has nothing to with the cards or ATMs.
    Yes, no doubt. Even if the state should somehow make it impossible for the welfare recipients to use their cards in casinos, what's to stop them from using them in regular ATMs, then taking the cash to the casino, or, for that matter, using it to buy drugs from their favorite dealer or booze at the liquor store?

    People who are living on the largess of the rest of us shouldn't have that option. It would be much better to give them vouchers for rent and groceries, pay their power bill, and let them get a job if they want to be able to spend money the way they want. Welfare is not their money.

    Morover, welfare should be a temporary hand up for people who have had a run of bad luck, not a way of life. Whatever happened to welfare reform?
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Well, I believe the way atm-machines and the like work is that each bank (thus card-source) has a code OR they have a source-reference . . . you can program your atm (or your merchant station, etc) to ignore certain codes/source references and accept others.
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Does that mean that we should not only pay for welfare, but that we should anticipate welfare fraud and counter act it? Why don't we just NOT give them welfare? I know I know,some people NEED the money. I think that presceening would be more effective than trying to close the barn door afterwards. Jees, do you wonder why people don't like welfare programs?
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by cholla View Post
    Does that mean that we should not only pay for welfare, but that we should anticipate welfare fraud and counter act it? Why don't we just NOT give them welfare? I know I know,some people NEED the money. I think that presceening would be more effective than trying to close the barn door afterwards. Jees, do you wonder why people don't like welfare programs?
    He's strongly considering the end - or extreme cutting - of the program. This didn't help but it's a good revelation.

    I'm actually surprised that this only came to light because of research for a news-article and NOT from the state doing damage-control and investigating how all the money is spent.
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How about we just fix this error?
    Yep, stop handing out atm cards that have the cash withdrawal feature.
    Essentially make it a limited debit card at a few approved stores.

    That probably won't happen though.
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Great use of tax dollars...

    California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs - latimes.com

    "Reporting from Sacramento — California welfare recipients are able to use state-issued debit cards to withdraw cash on gaming floors in more than half of the casinos in the state, a Los Angeles Times review of records found.

    The cards, provided by the Department of Social Services to help recipients feed and clothe their families, work in automated teller machines at 32 of 58 tribal casinos and 47 of 90 state-licensed poker rooms, the review found."

    And hey...why not...its THEIRS...they should be able to use it how they want...
    In Oklahoma they have whats called access cards, the only thing these cards can be used for is food and it takes a access card reader in order for the card to be used. Most people would have thought that California out of all states would have something like that instead of something that is basically a prepaid credit card.
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    On a related note - the Dollar General in our town has a new sign that states "Energy Drinks like Red Bull and Monster can no longer be purchased with EBT" (EBT is food stamps)


    Why not candy, junk food, sodas, ice cream and cakes, too?
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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Umm who cares? You just gave out the biggest welfare payout by far to the banking industry.. so they can keep using their gambling machine. These cards may be used in casino atm's big freaking deal.. but is likely they need the money to pay their rent.
    Last edited by Gabriel; 06-25-10 at 10:18 AM.

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    Re: California welfare cards can be used in many casino ATMs

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabriel View Post
    Umm who cares? You just gave out the biggest welfare payout by far to the banking industry.. so they can keep using their gambling machine. These cards may be used in casino atm's big freaking deal.. but is likely they need the money to pay their rent.
    excellent point. the American taxpayer DID cover the losses of the wealthy, not just in the USA, but worldwide ... and it's not like they did not lose their money gambling
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