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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Why do you call yourself a centrist? I mean come on!
    Yes and? Why not attack the problem at all levels with all means? Why only go the party line about "kick them Hispanic´s out" theme? Why NOT target the companies that hire them? And if you dont have the balls to dissolve all companies that hire illegals, or fine the crap out of them, then force them to pay the same wage as Americans, hence remove one of the biggest incentives there is in hiring illegals. Like it or not your politicians cant get their act together (both sides) because they have their hands down the pockets of the very companies that hire illegals, so I am amazed that this even happened.
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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    I dont think deportation is such a fear amongst them, I mean it will keep them from talking to authorities but I don't think their employers hold them hostage. They dont go around going: "Hey thur, I knoe ur an illeguhl! Youd better take my wages!" And their wage is more likely market determined.

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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Ignoring the silly partisan comments in this thread so far, IMO the video sends the wrong message in that it almost gives a wink and a nod to illegals in this country. I think this just further cements the notion that our government is not going to do anything to enforce the immigration laws of this country.
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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    Without wishing to or actually taking sides.
    I believe that what was proposed was that all those employed should be paid at the rate of minimum wage.
    Those illegals shouldn't be paid at all, and ought to be run out of here. Just give them a bus ticket to Juarez.
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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Yes and? Why not attack the problem at all levels with all means? Why only go the party line about "kick them Hispanic´s out" theme? Why NOT target the companies that hire them? And if you dont have the balls to dissolve all companies that hire illegals, or fine the crap out of them, then force them to pay the same wage as Americans, hence remove one of the biggest incentives there is in hiring illegals. Like it or not your politicians cant get their act together (both sides) because they have their hands down the pockets of the very companies that hire illegals, so I am amazed that this even happened.
    If the companies are breaking the law, prosecute them. But run the illegals out of here.

    You don't seem much like a centrist since you always take the liberal side of everything.
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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Here's a crazy thought...

    If the Labor Department knows of illegal immigrants, REPORT THEM, and have them deported.

    Jesus F'ing Christ. No wonder so many make the argument of "we can't deport millions of people" without anything to back it up. Their evidence must be that the freaking government is too stupid or unethical to do it and that's why it can't happen, not because it PHYSICALLY can't.

    Seriously, to help them with this you'd have to know who and where they are. If you know that then get rid of them.

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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    If the companies are breaking the law, prosecute them.
    Yes I agree, but America does not do that does it now? No the companies hide behind their congressman by padding their congressmen's wallets with donations. There is NO downside for US companies what so ever to hiring illegals. If they got fined considerably or broken up, then maybe it would not be such a good deal to hire illegals ..Just think if all the farms were threatened to be seized by the local government for hiring illegals to take in their corps? Do you think they would hire illegals then? In Europe the penalty for hiring someone off the books so to say, often illegals is huge, especially for repeat offenders.. they simply loose the right to do business.

    But run the illegals out of here.
    Poor choice of words for an American if you ask me.. but yes I agree. Illegals are illegals, but focusing all your anger on them only makes you look like a racist xenophobe. It is not the illegals fault that there is work for them in the US.. that is the US fault, namely the companies that are willing to hire them. It is not the illegals fault that your economy is a supposed "free market" with no checks and balances, and yet you choose to focus ALL your anger on them.. so one has to wonder why you focus all your anger on them.

    You don't seem much like a centrist since you always take the liberal side of everything.
    Is it suddenly liberal (as in socialist) to go after both sides that are breaking the law... wow I would call that a true liberal borderline conservative policy, but I guess not in the twisted world of American conservative populist politics.

    Like it or not, the amount of illegals in the US would be considerably less if there was no jobs for them.
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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    The majority of Illegal Immigrants, at least here in Texas allready earn more than minimum wage. Don't you find it ironic that the secretary of labor is supporting illegal activity and that she is the daughter of illegal immigrant parents from Nicaragua and Mexico. Hilda's parents where granted amnesty during the Regan Administration.They were also law breakers why shouldn't she support those who disregard our laws now. She should be fired immediatly.
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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Quote Originally Posted by SE102 View Post
    I disagree. They want to hire them because they tend to be better workers in my experience.
    I disagree. I've worked with them in construction and they do the shoddiest work I have ever seen.. They use hammers for screwdrivers. They don't give a **** about doing a competent job.

    Greedy businessmen love them because a lot of them are afraid to complain and they work cheap. You get what you pay for.

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    Re: Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Implication that illegals working is no big deal.

    Implication that saying otherwise would be a bad thing.

    This gives him a chance to clarify. Have anything on the OP or you just here to try and derail the thread because it makes the Left look so bad?
    Doesn't imply that at all. This is what I meant by the conversations in your head part.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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