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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am really torn on this issue..........On the one hand I believe in the chain of command and the DOD runs the military....On the other hand when you have such a bumbbling idiot like Obama running the show and screwing everything up it has to be very difficult for our Commanders in the field..........
    I think Obama has no expertise in military affairs and cmpletely relies on the Generals. Obama gave General McChrystal 30,000 of the 40,000 troops he said he needed to win. With the 30,000 additional troops we have seen little to no change inA Afghan.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, Obama did give Petraus hell at one time, but his replacing McChrystal with Petraus shows me that this is not some political stunt. After all, Obama does not really like Petraus that much, Liberals referred to him as "Betray us", and he was appointed by Bush. That tells me a lot about Obama. I still disagree with most everything Obama is doing, but for him to put political hackery aside, and do what he feels is in the best interests of America, I can only say this - "Well done, Mr. President".

    NOTE: I couldn't help but choke when I said this, but honesty dictates that I say it.
    Several points.

    1) Don't assume since some one posts a video it contains what they say it does. There was no "grilling", unless asking one question is a grilling, and the question was not particularly bad "what conditions would be required to make you change your recommendation".

    2) Obama did not give Patraeus hell. He was fairly respectful, and twice commented that his issues with the handling of the Iraq war was not the fault of those 2(Patraeus and the ambassador), but the fault of the administrations overall strategy. Obama gave Bush hell, not Petraus.

    3) MoveOn is not "liberals". It is one small group of lliberals. Liberals condemned MoveOn over the BetrayUs add. This whole concept of finding some left wing comment and trying to hold the whole left responsible for it is getting very old. It's lame. It's cheap politics.

    4) Obama praised Petraeus after the MoveOn add.

    5) There is no real evidence that Obama thinks Petraeus is anything other than a good general.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I think Obama has no expertise in military affairs and cmpletely relies on the Generals. Obama gave General McChrystal 30,000 of the 40,000 troops he said he needed to win. With the 30,000 additional troops we have seen little to no change inA Afghan.
    Acutally that is not true............He promised 30,000 troops after waiting about 6 months but to this day all the troops he promised are still not in country............
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Acutally that is not true............He promised 30,000 troops after waaiting about 6 months but to this day all the troops he promised are still not in country............
    Nor would they be if they had followed McChrystal's recommendation to the letter and immediately after he made it.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes, Obama did give Petraus hell at one time, but his replacing McChrystal with Petraus shows me that this is not some political stunt. After all, Obama does not really like Petraus that much, Liberals referred to him as "Betray us", and he was appointed by Bush. That tells me a lot about Obama. I still disagree with most everything Obama is doing, but for him to put political hackery aside, and do what he feels is in the best interests of America, I can only say this - "Well done, Mr. President".

    NOTE: I couldn't help but choke when I said this, but honesty dictates that I say it.
    Me too...it says he doesnt have a clue WHAT to do...so he reverts to Bush doctrine. Yep...THATS a leader I want to follow into battle. Oh...and a side note...his demotion of Petraeus just ended his career. You dont look at going from the theatre commander to the Afghanistan Commander then UP to a Joint Chief position. Personally...I will be surprised if Petraeus isnt seething right now and if he lasts more than a few months before he retires.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Nor would they be if they had followed McChrystal's recommendation to the letter and immediately after he made it.
    Well it sure worked in Iraq when General Petraeus asked for the increase for the surge..........Unfortunately because of far left people like you we will never know if it would have worked had Obama listened to his Commanders in the field and not tried to play General himself =.........
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Well it sure worked in Iraq when General Petraeus asked for the increase for the surge..........Unfortunately because of far left people like you we will never know if it would have worked had Obama listened to his Commanders in the field and not tried to play General himself =.........
    Ok, you seem seriously confused. Obama sent most of the the troops McChrystal requested, and on schedule. He made his decision based on the feedback of generals. So now, listening to the military is trying to play general himself.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Ok, you seem seriously confused. Obama sent most of the the troops McChrystal requested, and on schedule. He made his decision based on the feedback of generals. So now, listening to the military is trying to play general himself.
    You are the confused one, it took 6 months after the Generals request to get some of the troops there and they are still not all 30,000 there....By the way the General originally asked for 40,000 troops........
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Me too...it says he doesnt have a clue WHAT to do...so he reverts to Bush doctrine. Yep...THATS a leader I want to follow into battle. Oh...and a side note...his demotion of Petraeus just ended his career. You dont look at going from the theatre commander to the Afghanistan Commander then UP to a Joint Chief position. Personally...I will be surprised if Petraeus isnt seething right now and if he lasts more than a few months before he retires.
    The political and military leadership both recognize that General Petraeus selflessly assumed the post in what amounted to extraordinary circumstances. The change in responsibility will not be looked at negatively. The move does not resemble those made to move someone to a largely symbolic post near the end of their careers.

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