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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    This would only be apt if I was comparing him to me. I'm not, I'm comparing him to the military tribunal that ought to hear this case. Again, nice try, but your hack ways will get you no traction with me.
    You are comparing your knowledge of the law to his and whether it amounts to a court martial.

    Don't try and spin your nonsense. You think you know more than an ivy league military law expert. It doesn't get funnier than that.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    I accept your concession.
    Fail. I never conceded to anything, no will I. You might have read my comments thoroughly from the beginning before jumping to conclusions, though. He should face a court martial, and they ought to decide what to make of his insubordination. If it's not an article 88 violation, it's too close for anybody in this thread to know it from an actual article 88 violation. Tex brought up one quote from an academic who said, "it probably isn't" which only goes to prove my point. So I accept yours and tex's concession. QED Always a pleasure to best you in an argument, Hellhound, even if you don't realize it.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    One would have to be a complete imbecile to believe McChrystal will ever be brought up on charges of any kind related to this episode.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Fail. I never conceded to anything, no will I.
    So you instead choose to wallow in partisan hackery and complete and utter wrongness...


    Kudos to you. How is that working for you?



    You might have read my comments thoroughly from the beginning before jumping to conclusions, though. He should face a court martial, and they ought to decide what to make of his insubordination. If it's not an article 88 violation, it's too close for anybody in this thread to know it from an actual article 88 violation. Tex brought up one quote from an academic who said, "it probably isn't" which only goes to prove my point. So I accept yours and tex's concession. QED Always a pleasure to best you in an argument, Hellhound, even if you don't realize it.

    Speaking of quotes, will you be providing the quote in question that rises to this article 88 violation or will you simply be in partisan hack mode mouth foaming over the honorable General?
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    One would have to be a complete imbecile to believe McChrystal will ever be brought up on charges of any kind related to this episode.
    Whether he will be and whether he should be are two different things.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Whether he will be and whether he should be are two different things.
    Yeah, so what's your point?

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    You are comparing your knowledge of the law to his and whether it amounts to a court martial.

    Don't try and spin your nonsense. You think you know more than an ivy league military law expert. It doesn't get funnier than that.
    Not at all. I'm very impressed with his credentials and he knows quite a lot more than I do, obviously. But what isn't so impressive is what he says, which if you read it carefully you would realize amounted to hedging:
    “I don’t really think this is contemptuous," says Fidell. "I don’t think it makes the needle bounce under Article 88. There’s 'contemptuous words' and being disrespectful," Fidell added. "Those are two different things.”
    "He doesn't really think" means that there is a case to be made for the other side, one that is good enough that the answer to question isn't obvious even to an expert in the field. Thus, this quote goes to prove my point, not yours. QED. Nice try though, your argumentation skills are improving! I'd give you a B-.

    Edit: And you don't have to take my word for it that this is a close question (I suspect you wouldn't no matter how persuasive I argue it), so here is something from Georgetown to match your Ivy League professor:

    Could McChrystal face a court-martial?

    06/23/10: The Washington Times reports that when Gen. Stanley McChrystal shows up at the White House for his highly anticipated meeting with President Obama, he is certain to hear about his commander in chief's displeasure — and may even be fired or resign. But a close reading of military law suggests that an even more drastic remedy is theoretically available to Gen. McChrystal's superiors to punish him for denigrating senior members of the administration in interviews with Rolling Stone magazine — court-martial. Section 88 of the Uniform Military Code of Justice says that any officer who uses "contemptuous words" against the president, vice president, Congress, the Secretary of Defense, or certain other officials "shall be punished as a court martial directs."

    http://www.securitylawbrief.com/main...rtmartial.html
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Still no quote GI?


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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Fail. I never conceded to anything, no will I. You might have read my comments thoroughly from the beginning before jumping to conclusions, though. He should face a court martial, and they ought to decide what to make of his insubordination. If it's not an article 88 violation, it's too close for anybody in this thread to know it from an actual article 88 violation. Tex brought up one quote from an academic who said, "it probably isn't" which only goes to prove my point. So I accept yours and tex's concession. QED Always a pleasure to best you in an argument, Hellhound, even if you don't realize it.
    I brought up someone who is a EXPERT in this area who refutes your claim. You have no expert on your side.

    You lost 3 pages ago.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Whether he will be and whether he should be are two different things.


    So you instead feel like slandering and berating a member of the armed services. Ahhh.got it.
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