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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Please. Thats not even close for a court martial. A sanction possibly but Article 88 was clearly for deliberate and excessive insubordinate behavior
    Yeah, so I guess a four star general badmouthing the commander-in-chief to a Rolling Stone reporter is within the limits of "acceptable insubordinate" behavior? And if you're talking about a sanction over an Article 88 violation, where are your facts? Show me the black letter law and maybe you'll persuade me.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yeah, so I guess a four star general badmouthing the commander-in-chief to a Rolling Stone reporter is within the limits of "acceptable insubordinate" behavior? And if you're talking about a sanction over an Article 88 violation, where are your facts? Show me the black letter law and maybe you'll persuade me.


    Can you link to his exact quotes of his "badmouthing the CiC" and specifically quote what you are talking about? Thanks.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    1-he did resign. 2-resign or fire...it was the right thing to do. 3-Funny how he has gone from a General Betrayus---a liar...to now a qualified hero and a brilliant appointment by the president. 4-Thinking people MIGHT want to consider that MAYBE...JUST MAYBE...there is a REASON why they held the VP and others in such complete and utter disdain. And MAYBE...JUST MAYBE...regardless of whether they should have said anything or not...Biden, the administration...all of them might actually learn a lesson. They are responsible for a climbing US soldier death toll in Afghanistan. They say on their thumbs for 9 months. Afghanistan is a smoldering back burner issue. Maybe in a ddition to "McChrystal bad" they ought to consider "Administration ****ed"

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Can you link to his exact quotes of his "badmouthing the CiC" and specifically quote what you are talking about? Thanks.
    He can't because there aren't any.

    His best one is about Biden and it amounts to saying ": "Joe Biden … who's that?"

    Anyone who actually knows what the word contemptuous means knows it doesn't even come close to applying to this.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    You made the hillariously ironic comment above about the "worst kind of partisan hackery". Well, let me say its wonderful to meet you Mr. Pot, because I'd say someone claiming that an individual is a "prick" based on nothing but a joking response to a question regarding the Vice President that is not slanderous nor attacking and second hand heresay interprited by unnamed aides simply because of their own political ideology while completely and wholey ignoring the decades of military service ranks right up there.
    Let me explain something to you, since you appear to be woefully underinformated as to the kind of behavior that is expected from military officers. "Joking" criticism of superior officers is generally frowned upon, particularly by four star generals talking to reporters. We're not talking about about a guy who was accidentally overheard making a joke in the privacy of his own home or something, we're talking about a four star general representing the military to the press who permitted an unforgivable lapse of decorum. What's so hard about accepting the fact that this guy failed to live up to his duty? Oh yeah, I guess that'd require you to not be critical of Obama. I repeat, you and tex are indulging in the worst kind of partisan hackery.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    McChrystal is known for being a master strategist, which only makes it more necessary to ask: Finding out that he even VOTED for his majesty, BHO who is going down in history as perhaps the most incompetent fool ever to be elected President, then pretty much deserves what is coming to him. You don't vote for someone that you don't have faith in...

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Good riddance to insubordinate rubbish. He'll be lucky if he doesn't face a court martial.
    IMO, even as the General's comments and those of his inner circle were inappropriate to say the least, one should not paint with such a broad brush. The bad and naive judgment exhibited in his interview does not define most or all of General McChrystal's military career. The President made that clear in thanking the general for his long military career and service to the country.

    Finally, the affair is closed. He submitted his resignation, the President accepted it. There will be no court martial.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yeah, so I guess a four star general badmouthing the commander-in-chief to a Rolling Stone reporter is within the limits of "acceptable insubordinate" behavior? And if you're talking about a sanction over an Article 88 violation, where are your facts? Show me the black letter law and maybe you'll persuade me.
    Easily done.

    So do McChrystal's comments amount to insubordination? No, says Eugene Fidell, who teaches at Yale University School of Law and is president of the National Institute of Military Justice. “I don’t really think this is contemptuous," says Fidell. "I don’t think it makes the needle bounce under Article 88. There’s 'contemptuous words' and being disrespectful," Fidell added. "Those are two different things.”

    You can concede at any time now.

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    Picking this up aps?
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Can you link to his exact quotes of his "badmouthing the CiC" and specifically quote what you are talking about? Thanks.
    I already gave a quote where be badmouthed the vice-president in violation of Article 88. He's known to have said something along the lines of "Obama looked scared" meeting with military brass for the first time, and I call that badmouthing the CIC. He tolerated contemptuously language from his advisors and staff. All this happened in front of the press. There are numerous other news outlets that can provide you with all the rest of quotes if you take the time to look them up. Honestly, why bother to defend this guy? He's a disgrace to the uniform.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Let me explain something to you, since you appear to be woefully underinformated as to the kind of behavior that is expected from military officers. "Joking" criticism of superior officers is generally frowned upon, particularly by four star generals talking to reporters. We're not talking about about a guy who was accidentally overheard making a joke in the privacy of his own home or something, we're talking about a four star general representing the military to the press who permitted an unforgivable lapse of decorum. What's so hard about accepting the fact that this guy failed to live up to his duty? Oh yeah, I guess that'd require you to not be critical of Obama. I repeat, you and tex are indulging in the worst kind of partisan hackery.
    I actually agree with you that McChrystal had to go. We never bitch down the chain of command, nor outside of it. So Im FINE with that decision.

    Now...Why do you suppose a man with the credentials and apparently the universal respect of so many people would be so repulsed by representatives of this administration that he would go so far as to say such things?

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