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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    I'm reluctant to judge to quickly, but I think the President did the right thing here.

    At first, I was angry because I thought this was purely political. I thought it was about Obama's ego, like usual.

    However, after reading the RS article I believe the GEN MC fostered a culture in his command and among his staff that could be considered very unprofessional in the least. At worst, it could be considered pretty insubordinate.

    I was always leery of GEN MC in the first place. He was knee-deep in the Pat Tillman cover up. A situation that made the Army look very, very bad. That was a mess. I questioned his integrity at the time. Secondly, GEN MC is a spec-ops guy; a killer. His experiences and personality may not be conducive to heading an operation like this, one that requires a diplomat and a politician. A strategic thinker. Maybe I'm not giving him enough credit.

    Now that GEN Petraeus is in charge, I feel better about our prospects in AFG. If he can't do it, no one can.

    Personally, I didn't think we fired enough Generals during the Iraq War. I would have rarely protested any of those.

    The bottom line is that GEN MC crossed the line. He knows it. Which is why he didn't protest or even try to save his own job.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Name one quote where he went after the president. His only quote was against an ambassador and it hardly rose to contempt.

    You really need to read more carefully.
    It would probably help if you actually read the Rolling Stone article before your open your mouth and embarrass yourself again...

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So 3 months is now somehow being called 11 months. Hrmm.

    Thank you Don.



    Talk about not reading an article Redress:


    Sources said that McChrystal has had his request for some time, but has been asked not to send it to Washington just yet. The senior defense official denied that, echoing other Defense Department and White House officials who said no one told McChrystal to hold the troop request and to not deliver it until President Obama was ready.


    Pentagon and White House officials have said that the request is part of a two-phased process, starting with the assessment and ending with the actual numbers.

    However, the confusion is in part attributable to Obama's seeming change in position on Afghanistan.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Brief timeline:

    Last week in September 2009: Gen. Stanley McChrystal's request for an additional 30,000-40,000 U.S. troops in Afghanistan may be received by Secretary of Defense Robert Gates in coming days, a senior defense official speaking on background told FOX News on Tuesday.

    November 30, 2009: President Obama approves the deployment of additional soldiers to Afghanistan

    December 22, 2009: First deployment of soldiers from the surge in Afghanistan arrived.


    Thanks, looks like it was 3 months., which still is too long. What did he dither for 11 months on again, I forget.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Talk about not reading an article Redress:
    Which is from an op ed, which makes it worthless. You want to provide some actual facts(so far you have had none), then maybe you have something, but this he requested troops, but not really, but really he did, and it was from before Obama was even president, and I know it's true cuz Ollie North told me so in an article he uses troop deaths to score points in is not worth much.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    Thanks, looks like it was 3 months., which still is too long. What did he dither for 11 months on again, I forget.
    IIRC, and I don't have the link handy, but the troops went out, on the schedule McCrystal asked for. Part of why the three months was not a big deal is they had time before they had to act on this.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    I don't know why you guys are arguing about the troop surge in AFG. That had nothing to do with his resignation.

    Petraeus will pursue the same strategy.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by kansaswhig View Post
    I don't know why you guys are arguing about the troop surge in AFG. That had nothing to do with his resignation.

    Petraeus will pursue the same strategy.
    I am just correcting factually incorrect statements.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    SO this continues round and round about timelines...but...

    Has anyone bothered to consider the merits of the generals (and the theater staffers) comments? If McChrystal is such a good general and they hold this administration in such loiw regard...is it just because he is a bad general (that doesnt jibe with everyones glowing comments) or because the administration and their actions and support of the Afghan war blows?

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    SO this continues round and round about timelines...but...

    Has anyone bothered to consider the merits of the generals (and the theater staffers) comments? If McChrystal is such a good general and they hold this administration in such loiw regard...is it just because he is a bad general (that doesnt jibe with everyones glowing comments) or because the administration and their actions and support of the Afghan war blows?


    Remember McChrystal voted for Obama, What the hell happened that something like this would happen?
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