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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You are the confused one, it took 6 months after the Generals request to get some of the troops there and they are still not all 30,000 there....By the way the General originally asked for 40,000 troops........
    General McChrystal asked for 40,000 troops. President Obama agreed to 39,000 (34,000 U.S. troops + 5,000 from NATO countries). The Washington Post reported at the time the strategy was agreed, "The combined U.S. and NATO deployments would nearly reach the 40,000 requested last summer by U.S. Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal, the coalition commander in Afghanistan, as part of an intensified counterinsurgency strategy."

    Obama to send 34,000 troops to Afghanistan - washingtonpost.com

    The difference of 1,000 is immaterial. The strategy is General McChrystal's. The toop number is virtually the same as what General McChrystal requested.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You are the confused one, it took 6 months after the Generals request to get some of the troops there and they are still not all 30,000 there....By the way the General originally asked for 40,000 troops........
    And when would the troops that McCrystal requested have started to arrive in Afghanistan? Hint: it was not the next day.

    And why do you keep saying 6 months when that is a flat out lie? The troop request was submitted to SecDef on Aug 30, the request was approved Dec 1, which is 3 months. Do you think if you keep repeating the lie often enough people will believe it?
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I am really torn on this issue..........On the one hand I believe in the chain of command and the DOD runs the military....On the other hand when you have such a bumbbling idiot like Obama running the show and screwing everything up it has to be very difficult for our Commanders in the field..........
    Why does the hypocrisy of this post not surprize me?
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gibberish View Post
    I think Obama has no expertise in military affairs and cmpletely relies on the Generals. Obama gave General McChrystal 30,000 of the 40,000 troops he said he needed to win. With the 30,000 additional troops we have seen little to no change inA Afghan.
    O'bummer should rely on his military commanders but he didnt.

    - He didnt give the number of troops his General asked for.
    - He took way to long thinking about it.
    - He imposed "rules of engagement" that will make it very difficult, if not impossible to win the war.
    -Didnt communicate well with his commander in the field often not talking to him for months straight.

    Stanley McChrystal was commander & part of the forces that took down Zarqawi in Iraq, he is one of

    Americas finest. O'bummer hadnt run a hot dog stand until he ran for office.

    He shouldnt be removed in the middle of a war right before a major offense is to begin.

    McChrystal was no dummy & probably saw the writing on the wall........

    An Administration not committed to winning the war, already talking about leaving before a victory
    could be acheived.

    Troops demoralized because they know they cant win with the rules & low level of commitmant of there
    leadership.

    There is more to this story than meets the eye, I think Stan McChrystal saw that his commander was going
    about this half ass, and decided he wasnt going to have any part of it. Having his name go down in history
    as the general in command of what is going to probably be a real loser, the way they are going about it.

    And for Obama to base such a huge decision on the word of an magazine writer really makes you wonder if there really wasnt more to this that hasnt been heard yet.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Troops demoralized because they know they cant win with the rules...
    The rules of engagement are General McChrystal's. President Obama did not create those rules.

    There is more to this story than meets the eye...
    There is. An earlier incident during which the general made inappropriate public remarks.

    And for Obama to base such a huge decision on the word of an magazine writer really makes you wonder if there really wasnt more to this that hasnt been heard yet.
    Considering that General McChrystal reviewed the story and did not contest it, there's little reason others should lack confidence in the article.

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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The political and military leadership both recognize that General Petraeus selflessly assumed the post in what amounted to extraordinary circumstances. The change in responsibility will not be looked at negatively. The move does not resemble those made to move someone to a largely symbolic post near the end of their careers.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Good riddance to insubordinate rubbish. He'll be lucky if he doesn't face a court martial.
    McChrystal was an amazing general, who did an amazing job. I don't think we should be celebrating his departure. I understand that it was necessary, but it's not going to help our effort in Afghanistan. Good luck to Patraeus, and I hope he keeps the ball rolling.
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    I find it interesting that Obama did essentially everything the COIN advocates told him to do, and he's being criticized by the right for it. There's no pleasing that crowd. Let me ask the naysayers: if you were given control of the Afghanistan situation right now, as things are, what would you do differently?
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    I find it interesting that Obama did essentially everything the COIN advocates told him to do, and he's being criticized by the right for it. There's no pleasing that crowd. Let me ask the naysayers: if you were given control of the Afghanistan situation right now, as things are, what would you do differently?
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    Re: McChrystal relieved of his command.

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    Let me ask the naysayers: if you were given control of the Afghanistan situation right now, as things are, what would you do differently?
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