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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Mell View Post
    Providing for the vulnerable is part of what is it means to live in a civilized society. Those who do not agree with it, could maybe move to Somalia or someplace like that, to avoid it.
    Considering the federal government hasnt been involved with it for some 230 years or so it is also probably pretty clear it isnt the job of the fed to do so. Providing for others is best done by individuals...private organizations...charities. You know...putting YOUR money where your mouth is...not expecting big Sammy to do everything for you...not rolling over in the dirt and begging the federal government to feed, clothe, shelter you and wipe your ass to boot because you 'cant'. Its the "poor us we cant" attitude that is FOSTERED by government welfare. It rewards it.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    There is a sizable percentage of homeless people who PREFER to be homeless.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    It would be great to do it, but I do not see how we can afford it right now.

    Something like this should be postponed until the economy is doing better and than prioritized against other needs based on funds available.
    Impossible.

    Some people choose this as their destiny. Might seem strange to some, but is true.

    The only way to eliminate or reduce it is to exact more personal responsibility.... cut hand outs.
    Encourage personal responsibility. Not encourage it... demand it.

    Might seem cold, but to kill it off you have to let people know they won't be able to free load.

    Call it tough love...and still... it will never be eliminated, but will be reduced.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    I was wondering if I was experiencing The Great Society all over again.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    I admire Obama for trying to do the right thing and while some say this is not the time to try to do it? Well I say it is always the time to try and help fellow mankind and it is about time someone took this issue serious.

    If we wait til the right time, when we can afford it, blah, blah. blah? We will NEVER stamp this issue out! We must tackle it and tackle it now! It is up to us to do the right thing.

    Edit to say that the rich are the ones with the money so of course they should have to pay higher taxes to help stop this problem.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Homelessness is simply not a problem that can be eliminated with more funding. In nearly all cases in the United States, homelessness isn't caused by poverty, it's caused by mental illness...often combined with drug or alcohol abuse. What makes Obama think he can eliminate it? The only way to do so would be for the Supreme Court to reverse itself and rule that mentally ill people could be institutionalized without their consent...which would be quite an affront to civil liberties.

    If Obama wants to use this as an inspirational goal to fight poverty, that's OK. (I think it falls flat even as an inspiring message, but at least fighting poverty is a good cause.) But if he actually thinks we can eliminate homelessness in ten years, he's dreaming.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Then I'll say it. It can't be done, neither can attaining zero poor people. This is more silliness by academic types who can accept an imperfect world.
    Yes.. It can be done if we made things fair and across the board for everyone. Create a living wage and everybody that wants a job has one. No more hiring illegals, etc. Healthcare for all.

    We can make this country where the only people who are homeless are those that wish to be or mentally ill. And we should make sure that we have NICE places for these people to be and if they do not wish to and really wish to live on the streets? We need to set up areas and camps for them or something.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I admire Obama for trying to do the right thing and while some say this is not the time to try to do it? Well I say it is always the time to try and help fellow mankind and it is about time someone took this issue serious.

    If we wait til the right time, when we can afford it, blah, blah. blah? We will NEVER stamp this issue out! We must tackle it and tackle it now! It is up to us to do the right thing.

    Edit to say that the rich are the ones with the money so of course they should have to pay higher taxes to help stop this problem.
    Social engineering is very difficult, and we have not had a good track record in the past century at combating such problems with similar efforts as Obama wishes to do. It is not merely about doing the right thing, it is being able to in any meaningful way accomplish one's goals without too many severe unintended consequences. This is what I doubt, and why I would not support such an effort.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Jesus taught us to help the poor. Giving stuff away simply creates dependency.
    Jesus also said to become poor if you really want to get into heaven..He was pretty admant about giving to the poor.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Look, I am not a cold-hearted person, and I know that homelessness is a problem. But I have problems of my own. So, to the Obama administration, I say this - Not on MY dime.

    Article is here.
    Unrealistic egalitarian nonsense.

    Does anyone really take this **** seriously?
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