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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    I would like to rid the World of Idiotic Politicians, but that would mean there would be no Politicians.
    With regards to ridding society of homeless people, yes it can be done by a variety of methods.
    But most of these methods would mean that we would no longer have what we call Democracy.
    To do it and still be able to call our society 'Democratic' and say this with a straight face and in all honesty is not possible.
    So I have to assume in the absence of a 'PLAN' that President Obama is simply posturing.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    I swear this guy is trying to bankrupt us.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Hang on, sorry but I have to point out some hypocrisy here. I'm not following the whole republican backlash. They don't support Gay marriage or abortion because it conflicts with what is taught in the Holy Bible but somebody proposes a plan on a problem Jesus spent much of his life teaching about. Helping the poor and homeless, so why do you guys throw the Bible out in this instance?

    Sure it will cost money but Jesus said if you truly want to go to heaven give away all your belongings and live as a poor man.
    It is true that Christians who really believe, and don't just pay lip service to their faith, should help the poor. But that doesn't mean that government has any obligation to do so. There is something called separation of church and state that would prevent the government doing it for the reason you are giving.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    I'm sure he'll succeed at this....

    Right after FDR ends poverty

    Reagan ends drug use

    Bush ends Terrorism

    and Clinton ends interns holding onto stained articles of clothing

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by BCR View Post
    Hang on, sorry but I have to point out some hypocrisy here. I'm not following the whole republican backlash. They don't support Gay marriage or abortion because it conflicts with what is taught in the Holy Bible but somebody proposes a plan on a problem Jesus spent much of his life teaching about. Helping the poor and homeless, so why do you guys throw the Bible out in this instance?

    Sure it will cost money but Jesus said if you truly want to go to heaven give away all your belongings and live as a poor man.
    You honest to God belive that creating crippled dependent pets and then using them for political power is a loving and caring thing??? Really? Yeah...that welfare thing was a peach.

    Providing for others is a humanitarian activity that is actually engaged by many of those Christian people you denigrate. It has nothing to do with republican or democrat.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    This amazes me...

    We can't round up all the illegal aliens in the country but we can give housing to every homeless person.

    We can't afford to secure the border but we can afford to provide living space for every person without it.

    We couldn't afford Iraq or Afghanistan, but we can pass Trillion dollar stimulus programs, trillion dollar entitlement programs, and provide housing to millions and millions of people for free.

    There's a disconnect here I'm somehow missing. The argument always seems to be "we don't have the money" yet we always seem to have the money when its something the other side wants to do. Which leads me to believe perhaps its less about the money and more about them disagreeing with the very notions.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This amazes me...

    We can't round up all the illegal aliens in the country but we can give housing to every homeless person.

    We can't afford to secure the border but we can afford to provide living space for every person without it.

    We couldn't afford Iraq or Afghanistan, but we can pass Trillion dollar stimulus programs, trillion dollar entitlement programs, and provide housing to millions and millions of people for free.

    There's a disconnect here I'm somehow missing. The argument always seems to be "we don't have the money" yet we always seem to have the money when its something the other side wants to do. Which leads me to believe perhaps its less about the money and more about them disagreeing with the very notions.




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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    I call Racism against the Nomadic peoples of the US!

    Okay but in all seriousness homelessness will ALWAYS be a problem. Some people are crazy and refuse homeless shelters and other help from the government so what makes you think you can convince them now. Also it's going to take to much money. This is one of those times where I hate how the government tries to step in and solve a problem when it should be the people. Volunteering, donating money, helping your fellow man. This can all be achieved and not on the governments dime. And as someone pointed out the only real way to end homelessness would be to stop being a government and be something more akin to a totalitarian dictatorship.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    there is a difference between a homeless person and a wino under a bridge........that wino under the bridge is doing what he wants where he wants to do it, and as mentioned before, some folks just prefer to live that way, on the streets......just like some folks choose not to have health insurance

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    This amazes me...

    We can't round up all the illegal aliens in the country but we can give housing to every homeless person.

    We can't afford to secure the border but we can afford to provide living space for every person without it.

    We couldn't afford Iraq or Afghanistan, but we can pass Trillion dollar stimulus programs, trillion dollar entitlement programs, and provide housing to millions and millions of people for free.

    There's a disconnect here I'm somehow missing. The argument always seems to be "we don't have the money" yet we always seem to have the money when its something the other side wants to do. Which leads me to believe perhaps its less about the money and more about them disagreeing with the very notions.
    Let me clarify - you're correct in that we don't have the money, yet the existing White House DOES have the money for what they deem important. This is further evidence that what the WH thinks is worth spending money we do not have, is not the same as what the American people think. Iraq, Afghanistan, the U.S. border and illegals are all non-social / domestic issues. This President I now think, IS in fact an Ideologue in that, he will make claims about our economy, it's unsustainability, we all have to tighten our belts --- and then he'll turn around and spend trillions on healthcare and social programs and make naive statements about ending homelessness. It's why he has to go next election.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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