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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Obama vows to get the winos out of the gutter?

    How the hell is he going to do that, fill in the gutters?

    Once again, the Messiah is ignoring the real issues and making campaign speeches for issues only fringe groups care about.

    The nation doesn't care about the homeless any more.

    Actually,the nation as a whole never cared about them, so long as they were moved along out of the neighborhood. It's a free country, if people want to live in the streets, they can, so long as they live in someone else's street.

    What the nation cares about today is:

    Barry's incompetence in the Gulf Oil Disaster.
    Barry's incompetence in the economy overall.
    Barry's incompetence in reigning in government debt.
    Barry's incompetence in ending the Invasion of the US by Mexico and Latin America.
    Barry's incompetence in the War on Terror.
    Barry's incompetence in everything else.
    Barry's racism.
    Barry's socialism.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    So what do you suggest we do as a society?
    Encourage the few who care to contribute (contribute: a voluntary act of giving, not a governmental taxation/redistribution scheme) their own private money to help the needy.

    That's what we should do as a society.

    Then we can, as a society, begin to elminate the oppressive taxation and regulation that so overburdens the economy that the growth of the private sector is stunted to almost zero. Amazing how it works.....people with money to invest have to hire others to do the work, and those others who are hired turn around and spend the money to help the economy grow. But only when their money isn't stolen by oppressive taxation.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Sorry, but that is a poor example. The simplest and most direct interpretation of the verses relating to homosexuality is that it is a sin. To "interpret" otherwise requires intellectual contortions of a most extreme nature.

    Point not proven. At any rate, the point under discussion was the willful or negligent misrepresentation of scripture for the purpose of advancing one's agenda, as demonstrated by the poster above.

    The comment you made was so broad and generalized ("all denominations") that it is actually unproveable in the literal sense... had a comment that broad and general been made about some other class of people...say an ethnic group... it might have been construed as prejudice or outright racism. Practically any statement that broad ought to begin with the words "In my own unsupported and unproveable opinion..."
    First off, upon reading my original post, I now realize that I probably did not choose the proper wording. Misquote should be replace with interpretation. When it comes to the Bible, different Christian faiths interpret certain verses differently. I disagree that my example of homosexuality is a poor example. While your faith makes it crystal clear that it's a sin, some others don't.

    The same could be said for the Koran, or even anything that is posted here at DP. A sole article with the same information can induce many different interpretations. It happens all of the time.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    11 trillion bucks and 30 years couldn't do anything. What the hell is Buckey going to do?
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    First off, upon reading my original post, I now realize that I probably did not choose the proper wording. Misquote should be replace with interpretation. When it comes to the Bible, different Christian faiths interpret certain verses differently. I disagree that my example of homosexuality is a poor example. While your faith makes it crystal clear that it's a sin, some others don't.

    The same could be said for the Koran, or even anything that is posted here at DP. A sole article with the same information can induce many different interpretations. It happens all of the time.

    Okay. Interpretation and misrepresentation are two very different things: one is an honest difference of opinion, the other is a form of willfull deceit.

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Since when is it -my-- responsibility to provide a roof over the heads that do not have one?

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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Since when is it -my-- responsibility to provide a roof over the heads that do not have one?
    Since you like living in the U.S.A.? Well that comes with it-we try to help each other out here.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    It is not his responsibility, even though he ends up paying for some of the services which are provided.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    It is not his responsibility, even though he ends up paying for some of the services which are provided.
    Where does the responsibility lie on this issue? And please do not say on the people that are homeless.
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    Re: Obama vows to end homelessness in 10 years

    People can help, churches can help, nonprofits can help, government can even do a tiny portion, but how exactly can I say that the homeless should not take primary responsibility? These avenues can not help everyone, and perhaps not even enough for them to not need to make any effort. If there is one thing in life that is true: you have to help yourself. You cannot depend on people, because even if we ignore that it is degrading, eroding of personal worth and so on, the person can get burned by trying to depend on others.

    Your ideals are dream-like, not reality-based.
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