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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    None of the stories have much information, but from what I gather, I believe it's a preliminary injunction, which means that the rigs are allowed to drill until and unless a higher court vacates the injunction.
    Correct, that is what I saw as well. The rigs should be able to resume operations immediately.

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    None of the stories have much information, but from what I gather, I believe it's a preliminary injunction, which means that the rigs are allowed to drill until and unless a higher court vacates the injunction.



    Again, I haven't seen the papers, but I would imagine that the argument is something along the lines that the gov. does not have enough evidence to make this decision, which renders the moratorium a taking of property without due process in violation of the agreements that were signed.

    edit: It looks like it also involves administrative law.




    What makes you think that this judge was in any way influenced by the oil industry?

    Every day, judges around the country hand down decisions that cost or save corporations billions of dollars. Unless you think every one of those judges is on the take, I don't see why we should assume there is any undue influence here. I very much doubt that this is anything close to the biggest case that Feldman has heard in his 27 years on the bench.
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    I would have liked to have seen a permanent stoppage that would be lifted on a per-rig basis if the owners of a rig could demonstrate that adequate safety measures were in place and proper procedures were being followed. If you cant show that you are operating your rig safely, the rig doesn't get turned on.
    I agree, the moratorium felt like overkill, even for only 6 months.

    I guess with all the corruption and ineptitude in the MMS, they wanted a complete overall of the checks and balances before letting the drilling continue. If another rig ran into problems, it would be Obama's Katrina.

    Get MMS in line, get the new regulators in place, and let the safe rigs go back to work.

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

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    Judge block Gulf offshore drilling moratorium - San Jose Mercury News



    Let's not confuse our thoughts on the policy issues with the merits of the legal arguments.
    While I agree with the judge - it's not with glee. I feel that Obama is trying to do the right thing and in the process he's over-reaching and going about it the wrong way.
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Judge lifts offshore drilling ban as 'overbearing' *| ajc.com

    "Feldman's financial disclosure report for 2008, the most recent available, shows holdings in at least eight petroleum companies or funds that invest in them, including Transocean Ltd., which owned the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that blew up."

    hmm.... seems like money talking and people walking again..

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

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    Judge lifts offshore drilling ban as 'overbearing' *| ajc.com

    "Feldman's financial disclosure report for 2008, the most recent available, shows holdings in at least eight petroleum companies or funds that invest in them, including Transocean Ltd., which owned the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that blew up."

    hmm.... seems like money talking and people walking again..
    People's JOBS do matter - I thought that was a huge part of this issue with BP - that people have been oiled out of a JOB.
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    Judge lifts offshore drilling ban as 'overbearing' *| ajc.com

    "Feldman's financial disclosure report for 2008, the most recent available, shows holdings in at least eight petroleum companies or funds that invest in them, including Transocean Ltd., which owned the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that blew up."

    hmm.... seems like money talking and people walking again..
    My 401k has some index funds, which means I own (indirectly) stock in petroleum companies. Does this mean I could not or would not be fair?
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    Judge lifts offshore drilling ban as 'overbearing' *| ajc.com

    "Feldman's financial disclosure report for 2008, the most recent available, shows holdings in at least eight petroleum companies or funds that invest in them, including Transocean Ltd., which owned the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig that blew up."

    hmm.... seems like money talking and people walking again..
    This doesn't really make much sense if you think about it. What do we know? Back in 2008, this guy had a few thousand dollars in a handful of oil company stocks. You're assuming that he still owns those stocks, even though the very next line in your article indicates he may have sold some or all of them. His decision on this issue will have a minuscule effect on the overall value of those stocks. Unless you think he's throwing away his reputation and career for what will amount to (at best) a few hundred dollars, it doesn't make much sense.
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Inspections? Inspect all you want. That isn't the problem. An inspection isn't going to prevent anything, besides inspections are largely paperwork. The inspector checks documentation. The operator certifies that the proper procedures or equipment checks/certification have been followed and/or performed and that they are in compliance.

    The problem has been that no one knows how to stop what has already happened. If BP or anyone else had the know-how to stop the 'leak', this would have been yesterday's news.

    All the experts from around the world and no one knows how to cap this well, at this depth. Experts at this sort of thing believe that the relief well, currently being drilled, will do that. Problem is, it's taking so long to drill. Perhaps a relief well should be required to be drilled at the same time as the main well, until someone comes up with a better solution. To just cross your fingers and hope it doesn't happen again isn't a very big confidence booster.

    The moratorium should stay in effect until someone can demonstrate that they can contain or control any future such disaster quickly and efficiently.

    Another point, just because President Obama declared a 6 month moratorium doesn't mean he couldn't lift it sooner if someone can demonstrate a way to handle another such situation with better results than this one.
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This doesn't really make much sense if you think about it. What do we know? Back in 2008, this guy had a few thousand dollars in a handful of oil company stocks. You're assuming that he still owns those stocks, even though the very next line in your article indicates he may have sold some or all of them. His decision on this issue will have a minuscule effect on the overall value of those stocks. Unless you think he's throwing away his reputation and career for what will amount to (at best) a few hundred dollars, it doesn't make much sense.
    Plus, it's highly probable that he doesn't even manage his own portfolio and that the stocks were picked by his financial manager and not himself.

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