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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    We've been drilling in the Gulf for how many Decades?

    One rig goes to hell and the sky is falling.
    Is there a problem with ensuring that all rigs currently in the water are operating within safety guidelines?
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I would like to ask a couple of questions here.

    1) These offshore drilling spots are known as leases. Does that mean BP owns them? No, it doesn't.

    2) Are the leases owned by the Federal government?

    3) If the leases are owned by the Federal government, then wouldn't telling the owner of the leases whether or not the leases are allowed to be drilled constitute acting against the interests of the owner of the property?

    4) Finally, isn't it Republicans who have made it a huge point that ordering the owner of a property to do something he doesn't want to do with it is anti American?

    I am so confused here.
    Just because you "own" the area does not mean you can ignore your contractual obligations as you see fit. The government has signed contracts and agreements that these companies can operate in these areas, and they are bound by law to uphold those contracts.

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Is there a problem with ensuring that all rigs currently in the water are operating within safety guidelines?
    This has already been done. Immediately after the oil rig explosion, a review was done of all other deepwater drilling platforms, and they were all found to be in complete compliance, except for two, which had "minor" problems, but from what I understand, those problems would have no impact on the rigs ability to operate in a safe manner.

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    A moratorium seems justifiable when considered in the light of the worst ecological disaster in American oil extraction history. While the event may be rare in the industry the consequences are so severe to the country as a whole that a temporary pause in the activity seems appropriate especially given the anything-goes approach of the previous administration.
    “Real environmentalists live in cities, and they visit what's left of the wilderness as gently and respectfully as possible.” — Donna Moulton, letter to the editor, Tucson Weekly, published on August 23, 2001

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by NolaMan View Post
    This has already been done. Immediately after the oil rig explosion, a review was done of all other deepwater drilling platforms, and they were all found to be in complete compliance, except for two, which had "minor" problems, but from what I understand, those problems would have no impact on the rigs ability to operate in a safe manner.
    Can I see a source on that?
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I would assume that is how things are done.

    I can't beleive with as many regulators that are out in the gulf that they don't do inspections all the time to etither collect the fines or to allow the drilling to continue.

    If a new rig is allowed to start operation without any kind of inspection from the expert regulators, I would say any failure of that rig is on the regulators.
    Rigs are not allowed to begin operation until they pass an MMS inspection. These are sometimes known as "walk-throughs" and must precede any drilling or production by the rig. There are other names for these initial inspections but their proper names slip my mind at this time.

    The MMS is constantly inspecting all rigs offshore. The inspection process never stops. So if a rig begins operation without any kind of inspection it is on that rig operator, not the regulators. Again, you can't blame the cops if you speed. YOU are responsible for doing the right thing. And yes, they do collect fines from violations. Enough violations and they will be shut in. My father has personally had to do this a few times.
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Rigs are not allowed to begin operation until they pass an MMS inspection. These are sometimes known as "walk-throughs" and must precede any drilling or production by the rig. There are other names for these initial inspections but their proper names slip my mind at this time.

    The MMS is constantly inspecting all rigs offshore. The inspection process never stops. So if a rig begins operation without any kind of inspection it is on that rig operator, not the regulators. Again, you can't blame the cops if you speed. YOU are responsible for doing the right thing. And yes, they do collect fines from violations. Enough violations and they will be shut in. My father has personally had to do this a few times.
    Then it is a great pity that he did not do this with the Rig used in the BP caused disaster!!

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    That rig was not in his district.

    Hindsight is always 20-20 anyway. Reports show that the inspections preceding the explosion showed nothing of concern. **** happens. Period.
    Last edited by dontworrybehappy; 06-22-10 at 04:07 PM.

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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Reports show that the inspections preceding the explosion showed nothing of concern. **** happens. Period.
    Not actually true

    Rig had history of spills, fires before big 1
    Rig survivors: BP ordered shortcut on day of blast - CNN.com
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    Re: Judge blocks Gulf offshore drilling moratorium

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Can I see a source on that?
    Sure...

    From a Department of Interior press release... (you will see the release posted on the main page)
    At the request of Department of the Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, Minerals Management Service continues its re-inspection of all deepwater oil and gas facilities on the outer Continental Shelf. MMS has completed its inspection of deepwater drilling rigs in the Gulf of Mexico and no major violations were found.

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