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    Re: Steny Hoyer Leaves Open Possibility of Extending Bush Tax Cuts for Middle Class

    I think there are several solid points here. We do need to decrease spending and we are going to have to increase taxes, however, I say we increase them where they can be most afforded. By corporate america. Also we stop all ongoing wars, you may call this cut and run if you like, and go back to only attacking someone if congress can get up the guts to declare war.

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    Re: Steny Hoyer Leaves Open Possibility of Extending Bush Tax Cuts for Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And you...what do YOU think? Do you HAVE an actual original thought in your head? Do YOU actually embrace deficit spending? ****ing muppets...
    What? No, not at all. That was sarcasm, see. You're a really angry person, you know. This idea that we can cut taxes and increase spending at the same time is something a five-year old can figure out as being TOTALLY ****ING STUPID.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Steny Hoyer Leaves Open Possibility of Extending Bush Tax Cuts for Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What? No, not at all. That was sarcasm, see. You're a really angry person, you know. This idea that we can cut taxes and increase spending at the same time is something a five-year old can figure out as being TOTALLY ****ING STUPID.
    Angry? Nah...just repulsed by mindless ideological muppets. Here we have a thread about ending middle class tax cuts...we have a CURRENT administration that never saw a dollar they didnt feel was theirs to spend and a CURRENT congress that has upped their allowable deficit debt ceiling to 15.5 trillion and has refused to so much as pass a BUDGET yet are sure to increase taxes...and your mindless response is a quote by a FORMER vice president about a president and administration from the 1980s...niiiiiice...intelligent. VERY productive.

    Now MAYBE you might want to concern yourself with the people currently spending your money. Maybe.

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    Re: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The Associated Press: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly



    This is going to be a tough issue for both parties. The tax cuts should be made permanent or ignored altogether - this "temporary cut/fix" shenanigans is little more than a budgetary tool used to hide the true costs of programs and push off hard decisions to the next group of leaders.
    Actually - I think the tax-brackets need to be readjusted to reflect on a rise in living standards and the cost of basics, etc. . .the current middle class needs to be broken down into 3 parts - lower, middle, upper. No repeal of the tax cuts for the lower-portion. 1/2 repeal of the tax cuts for the middle portion, and the upper should get a full repeal. . . thus, the lower pays nothing more than they pay, now. The middle pay's 1/2 more and the upper pays full.

    That way those who are in a crunch already don't have to take on more burden.
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    I still support a flat-tax, but that's never going to happen so I don't harp on it.
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    Re: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

    Wait, what middle class tax cuts? I thought the Bush Tax Cuts only benefited the rich? Hoyer must be smoking.

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    Re: Steny Hoyer Leaves Open Possibility of Extending Bush Tax Cuts for Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Angry? Nah...just repulsed by mindless ideological muppets. Here we have a thread about ending middle class tax cuts...we have a CURRENT administration that never saw a dollar they didnt feel was theirs to spend and a CURRENT congress that has upped their allowable deficit debt ceiling to 15.5 trillion and has refused to so much as pass a BUDGET yet are sure to increase taxes...and your mindless response is a quote by a FORMER vice president about a president and administration from the 1980s...niiiiiice...intelligent. VERY productive.

    Now MAYBE you might want to concern yourself with the people currently spending your money. Maybe.
    You need to go to a spa or something. Relax a bit. Learn to take things a little less seriously, and try not to see everything as an attack. Sometimes people post things that are just meant to be humorous or ironic.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    The Associated Press: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly



    This is going to be a tough issue for both parties. The tax cuts should be made permanent or ignored altogether - this "temporary cut/fix" shenanigans is little more than a budgetary tool used to hide the true costs of programs and push off hard decisions to the next group of leaders.
    Agreed, but why anyone thinks we can continue spending without taxing is beyond me. I'm middle class, and would completely understand a modest increase in my taxes.

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    Re: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

    Quote Originally Posted by Moon View Post
    I just think it's sad that our government is okay with taking money away from Americans, but seems to care not one bit about reducing spending. At some point the well is going to dry up, and then what?
    "we cannot afford tax cuts" No, Steny, we cannot afford continuously spending train loads of borrowed money on unsustainable entitlements and irresponsible, unaccountable fiscal policy.

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    Re: Hoyer: Permanent middle class tax cuts too costly

    Quote Originally Posted by liblady View Post
    Agreed, but why anyone thinks we can continue spending without taxing is beyond me. I'm middle class, and would completely understand a modest increase in my taxes.
    The funny part is that the coming "tax hike" is just expiration of previous TEMPORARY tax cuts. Somehow, though, Obama is rasing our taxes. I guess the more accurate headline "Congress decides not to extend temporary tax cuts" isn't as exciting.

    On the spending side, lots of people like to harp on PORK and EARMARKS but in reality these are drops in the bucket. Defense-related spending, medicare, and social security are the big-ticket items that need to come down.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Steny Hoyer Leaves Open Possibility of Extending Bush Tax Cuts for Middle Class

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    What? No, not at all. That was sarcasm, see. You're a really angry person, you know. This idea that we can cut taxes and increase spending at the same time is something a five-year old can figure out as being TOTALLY ****ING STUPID.
    Well, when things get this bad, even Reagan's truisms fail. The common knowledge of not digging a hole deeper than you are tall comes into play. That's what Reagan and Cheney were talking about. But now, the hole is 20 feet deep --- so now the hole matters because those digging were too stupid to stop. I can't fault Reagan or Cheney for quoting him.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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