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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    FYI, the full text of the Rolling Stone article in question can be found at: Stanley McChrystal: The runaway general - Military- msnbc.com

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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Even though McChrystal is wrong for speaking out against his Chain of Command, what about the validity of what he is saying? Sometimes the most rude and unwelcomed comments speak the most truth. Is the war being run by politicians who simply are trying to cover themselves while claiming to fight the war?

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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    If he is replaced, and that is not yet certain, it will be done as diplomatically as possible. There will be no scapegoating.

    Nonetheless, the Administration still has a need to modify the current strategy. Failure to do so will reduce prospects for a clear-cut U.S. success in achieving its mission and major goals in Afghanistan.
    for my edification; what are the mission objectives and major goals to be accomplished in afghanistan before we can remove our troops?
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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    It's dumb and entirely inappropriate to make stupid comments about your superiors.

    It's really dumb and really inappropriate to make stupid comments about your superiors on the record to journalists.
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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    If he is fired, his public comments shouldn't be the issue. A legitimate issue concerns the strategy that he largely designed, as what is currently happening in Afghanistan risks becoming a case study in bad planning despite heroic efforts of execution by the troops.
    If he'd kept his mouth shut, the comments wouldn't be an issue. On what grounds should we allow a general to dis the CIC?

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    If the article is accurate, he should be fired for conduct unbecoming an Officer. You don't air dirty laundry about the Chain of Command... some of that stuff reads like high school level drama llama crap.

    However, I think it also says a lot about Obama's Admin and the failures of proper leadership going on there. If half of what they said is true, the WH is seriously dysfunctional.
    There's no love lost between the military and Obama's administration. Obama's failure, that he repeats everywhere, is the failure to engage. He acts like some kind of princess locked in a tower.

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    He knew the consequences of such statements, what this should lead us to believe is that there is some ****ed up **** coming down so much so that he felt he needed to say it.
    A bit of "McChrystal Ball" reading, eh?

    Quote Originally Posted by atomsNvoid View Post
    I also believe the General must be relieved of duty.

    It is interesting, however, to compare how quickly this White House can react when it's interests are assailed and compare the reaction time to that when the interests of the "small people" are under attacked. Ain't no moss a growin' on this rolling stone, huh?
    What possible benefit could there be in waiting to punish insubordination?

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The admin is going to have a real hard time pinning the lack of success in the ATO on McChrystal. They would be perfectly in the right to relieve McChrystal, however, they will make themselves look like complete assholes if they scapegoat him.
    Not about scapegoating. MyChrystal shot his mouth off. Now he got to pay.

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    Just a couple of points to ponder...

    1 McChrystal is a warrior's warrior
    2 McChrystal swore an oath to the Constitution and to no one else. He simply is fighting at that level for what he thinks is right.
    3 Who wants to be known as the general that lost Afghanistan ? **** that
    A warrior's warrior understands the chain of command. Swore an oath to the Constitution? Gimme a break.

    There's no excuse. Obama should make an example of him.

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
    Even though McChrystal is wrong for speaking out against his Chain of Command, what about the validity of what he is saying? Sometimes the most rude and unwelcomed comments speak the most truth. Is the war being run by politicians who simply are trying to cover themselves while claiming to fight the war?
    Soldiers don't have the luxury of speaking their interpretation of the truth. Just like you or I don't have the luxury of telling our boss he's a fat slob who should be flipping burgers. Welcome to the world.

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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by atomsNvoid View Post
    I also believe the General must be relieved of duty.

    It is interesting, however, to compare how quickly this White House can react when it's interests are assailed and compare the reaction time to that when the interests of the "small people" are under attacked. Ain't no moss a growin' on this rolling stone, huh?
    What are the "interests of the small people" to which you refer? Please explain how the White House failed to respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    A bit of "McChrystal Ball" reading, eh?d.


    Not at all. anyone who has served knows that you don't critisize the CiC to the press.
    You should try to remember, ideas are conveyed by researching information, vetting sources, and confirming said information. Not by regurgitating talking points given to you by your "news" station.
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    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    for my edification; what are the mission objectives and major goals to be accomplished in afghanistan before we can remove our troops?
    My gosh, someone asked the million dollar question.... the intelligent question. Sorry, the US hasn't fought a war in this century where objectives and goals were much of a concern.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    It's dumb and entirely inappropriate to make stupid comments about your superiors.

    It's really dumb and really inappropriate to make stupid comments about your superiors on the record to journalists.
    Unless you are trying to make a point and ready to retire....

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    re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    He knew the consequences of such statements, what this should lead us to believe is that there is some ****ed up **** coming down so much so that he felt he needed to say it.
    Or he was just being an a**hole.

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