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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    EDIT: Watching CNN. He has been relieved of Command. Mcchrystal has been relieved of Command. Obama shall talk in about 10 minutes.
    AP just broke that as well. Obama is supposedly choosing Patraeus to replace McChrystal.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    General Petraeus will be taking over.
    Hasn't been confirmed... but it is highly likely.

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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Hasn't been confirmed... but it is highly likely.
    CBS has been saying it was confirmed.

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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    McChrystal seems just like any other person...shooting his mouth off behind others' back. It's what everyone else does isn't it? Gordon Brown...etc. Just wondering what was he thinking letting that RS reporter tag along and recording what he says. Too bad for him...he's a politician, and all politicians go to the noose when they shoot their mouths off. RIP.

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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    I've read it. It was interesting to read that among the general descriptions you provide, that General McChrystal's "Team America" inner circle had a "disdain for authority." That is the antithesis of the principles at the heart of the military chain of command. It suggests not only a General whose conduct was inappropriate but also a potentially dysfunctional culture. To say the least, it is a troubling detail.

    P.S. My initial response that you quoted was prior to the full article's having been published online. Certainly, the article alone would be sufficient grounds for dismissal.
    Even before reading the article, I saw Gen. McCrystal's actions as insubordination. But after reading it, I don't think the Pres. had a choice but to relief him of command. The man was totally disrespectful all across the board - the CinC, the VP, W.H. officials, foriegn allies, political partners in Afghanistan...even the troops seems to be a little at odds with him. Gen. McCrystal had to know this wasn't going to turn out good for him, but if he didn't he's either a fool or he has the biggest ego this side of Texas and Alaska combined!!! He had to go; you just can't have that level of disdain for authority run rapid and not do anything about it.

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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Carbinedevil View Post
    McChrystal seems just like any other person...shooting his mouth off behind others' back. It's what everyone else does isn't it?
    Criticizing civilian leadership (if you can call it that) from many soldiers point of view is a past time in and of itself. Of course they're going to tell each other how so-and-so has their head up their ass, etc... BUT, that ends when it comes to the press or to your superiors. Yes the entire military does it at, I would suppose, all levels. But it stays close to the vest and one doesn't let it get out of hand or this is what happens.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Sing, baby sing! Tell us now what REALLY is up with this president!

    Funny how nobody is blaming RS magazine for doing this. They know they shouldn't be talking to a commander, much less interviewing him about this kind of stuff. Shame on RS and I will burn every issue of their magazine I come into contact with from now until the end of time.

    **** you Rolling Stones mag.

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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    Sing, baby sing! Tell us now what REALLY is up with this president!

    Funny how nobody is blaming RS magazine for doing this. They know they shouldn't be talking to a commander, much less interviewing him about this kind of stuff. Shame on RS and I will burn every issue of their magazine I come into contact with from now until the end of time.

    **** you Rolling Stones mag.
    This is totally not RS fault. McChrystal and his staff knew who they were, that they were there and knew what they were saying. You can't fault them for reporting what happened or what was said unless RS misquoted or made up some of the story.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Are there no other ways someone that senior could voice their disagreement in private and with effect?


    Perhaps he exhausted them.
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    Re: Gen. McChrystal's job hangs in the balance

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    What would you have said if he's simply sacked him without checking with him personally as he has just done? I for one would prefer someone looks me in the eye and sack me than do it via phone / letter or text message.

    What do you mean?




    I suspect the US military isn't that different in principle to the UK military and any senior British officer who mocked his country's elected leader should be held responsible. There are ways to get a message that you're unhappy across - and that doesn't include a public interview with a magazine like Rolling Stone.
    I've already addressed this.


    by the way, what exactly did mcchrystal say anyway?
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