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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But neither were Republicans...
    Correct.

    There's one huge difference however.

    One of those groups of people ran on a message of "Changing Politics as usual", sweeping in a "post partisan era", and promising to find bipartisan solutions to america's biggest problem.

    One of those groups continually criticizes the other for not being "bipartisan" while continually and utterly turning a blind eye to their own.

    I have absolutely no problem or issue if Obama and the Democrats don't want to be bipartisan. I do have an issue when you make that kind of notion a central portion of your campaign and something you continually act like you represent when you don't. My issue with them is not their failure to act bi-partisan, my issue with them is their two faced political double speak and manipulative political games...otherwise known as "politics as usual".

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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The Democrat party has reduced itself to such childishness. When you have no ideas, you invent crap like this.
    Yeah cause the Republicans have never invented anything...

    Can anyone say... Death Panels?

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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Correct.

    There's one huge difference however.

    One of those groups of people ran on a message of "Changing Politics as usual", sweeping in a "post partisan era", and promising to find bipartisan solutions to america's biggest problem.

    One of those groups continually criticizes the other for not being "bipartisan" while continually and utterly turning a blind eye to their own.

    I have absolutely no problem or issue if Obama and the Democrats don't want to be bipartisan. I do have an issue when you make that kind of notion a central portion of your campaign and something you continually act like you represent when you don't. My issue with them is not their failure to act bi-partisan, my issue with them is their two faced political double speak and manipulative political games...otherwise known as "politics as usual".
    This was actually the most upsetting broken campaign promise to me that President Obama ran with.

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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The Presidents presentation of "bipartisanship" thus far has essentially been "We won, deal with it, either get on board with what we want and we'll call it bipartisan or don't and we're going to call you obstructionists".
    Obama has tried to be bi-partisan, to a fault. In fact, he tried to be SO bi-partisan that he bent over backward to appease conservative fear mongers, such as removing all end of life counseling from the Health Care bill due to the "Death Panel" lie perpetuated by Palin and Reps in the house. The President you just described is George W. Bush, he didn't give a rat's ass about the minority party and had a very "my way or the highway" approach to legislature.

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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Correct.

    There's one huge difference however.


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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wait, the past 18 months was them trying to be bipartisan?

    ...jesus christ...

    If that was bipartisan god help us once they try to focus singularly on their partisanship
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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Wait, the past 18 months was them trying to be bipartisan?

    ...jesus christ...

    If that was bipartisan god help us once they try to focus singularly on their partisanship.
    Both parties always say "bi-partishan" this and that, neither party puts up though when they are in charge.
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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The Presidents presentation of "bipartisanship" thus far has essentially been "We won, deal with it, either get on board with what we want and we'll call it bipartisan or don't and we're going to call you obstructionists".

    The only thing thus far that he's compromised on was the Health Care plan, and that was to get his own party on board with it.

    From the moment he's taken office he's taken shots at Republicans and the former Republican President at every chance possible while talking out the other side of his mouth about "a post partisan era". He's narry a word for the media when they are completely off balance, fawning over him, showing none of the "intellectual honesty" that was used to explain their constant questioning and triple checking of Bush throughout his entire Presidency and yet has routinely over 18 months attacked Fox News and personally either through his words or individuals from his administration gone after commentators. Each and every time that Republicans don't go along with something that is solidly liberal in ideology they're talked about as obstructionists and playing partisan politics, while never once possibly acknowleding that the exact same can be said for himself and his side.

    I'm sorry, don't piss on my leg and tell me its raining. This has been no change from politics as usual, no post partisan era, this has not been a deep attempt at bipartisanship, this has been pure stereotypical politics and nothing but. The only times any remote effort at bipartisanship has been made is when its simply keeping to a campaign promise (such as some of the tax things) that he had made to get the populist vote, to woo his own party over, or done alongside broadscale insults and innuendo designed to make the republicans look bad and take a hit regardless of whether they go along with the "bipartisan" deal or not.
    There were several instances where the Dems offered to make concessions to get something passed, or made those concessions, and the GOP completely refused to budge. The GOP has flat out stated their strategy is to obstruct the democrats at every single turn, and then run with the message that the dems can't get anything done.
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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by somepeoplesay View Post
    Obama has tried to be bi-partisan, to a fault. In fact, he tried to be SO bi-partisan that he bent over backward to appease conservative fear mongers, such as removing all end of life counseling from the Health Care bill due to the "Death Panel" lie perpetuated by Palin and Reps in the house. The President you just described is George W. Bush, he didn't give a rat's ass about the minority party and had a very "my way or the highway" approach to legislature.
    Please show me some examples of him bending over backwards to "appease conservative fear mongers" that was not:

    1. Trying to keep a campaign promise
    2. Trying to woo people to vote for what he wants that were IN HIS PARTy
    3. Was done without being accompanied with insults, attacks, and accusations

    The "Death Panel" thing was not a "bipartisan compromise". Did the Republicans shoot out a lot of propoganda about it? Absolutely. So much so that it started causing moderate democrats to back out of the bill unless it was stripped out. That was for the benefit of HIS PARTY, not for "bipartisanship."

    And while George Bush was by no means "Mr. Bipartisan" I can think of two huge ones off the top of my head with the Ted Kennedy assisted No Child Left Behind and the Comprehensive Immigration Reform that his own party and constituents hated but he went along with Democrats on trying to pass it as comprehensive first and foremost. Not to mention bipartisanship and post partisan was not NEARLY as huge planks of his campaign as they were of Obama's.

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    Re: Dems mount effort to label house GOP as 'The BP 114'

    Quote Originally Posted by the makeout hobo View Post
    There were several instances where the Dems offered to make concessions to get something passed, or made those concessions, and the GOP completely refused to budge. The GOP has flat out stated their strategy is to obstruct the democrats at every single turn, and then run with the message that the dems can't get anything done.
    Care to quote me the specific things that were not doubly aimed at attempting to win over blue dog democrats?

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