So far in this thread people have called both myself and Obama "fascists" and "Marxists," apparently without recognizing the irony that neither of these terms are accurate for either of us. While I don't agree with Obama about everything, I do admit that I am very closely aligned with him on a lot of issues. Let me repeat, neither I nor Obama are fascists, that is patently absurd, and I really can't let such an insult pass (against me at least, say whatever you like about Obama, Lord knows I've called George W. Bush a fascist in my time). I wonder if you guys even know what fascism and marxism are? And what are you talking about when you say "benevolent fascism?" There is no such thing. These slurs have gotten to the point where they have no meaning at all, and people call any belief you oppose "fascism" or "marxism." In reality, the sort of thing alms and NYC are advocating are much closer to fascism (though not identical to fascism) than anything I have said. "What you're talking about are artificial market restrictions that favor multinational corporations and an elite few robber-barons. What I'm talking about is an artificial market that favors the people of the United States." And when I say that I'm talking about the poor people of the United States. I'm talking about breaking the backs of the robber-barons to give the working people a fair chance. I'm talking about equality for all people, which is precisely the opposite of fascism. What I'm talking about is egalitarianism.