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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

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    David Jungerman farms 6,800 acres of river bottom land in western Missouri.

    Read more: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire - KansasCity.com
    I would put money on the guy getting Farm Subsidies, Social Security, and Medicare. Which is the irony and the hypocrisy of this. Most transfers of wealth occur from younger generations to older generations and from cities to rural areas.
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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Quote Originally Posted by SouthernDemocrat View Post
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    I would put money on the guy getting Farm Subsidies, Social Security, and Medicare. Which is the irony and the hypocrisy of this. Most transfers of wealth occur from younger generations to older generations and from cities to rural areas.
    Well, I don't see SS or Medicare users being a "parasite" as I think he'd have to pay into that system without having a choice about opting out and keeping his money. About Farm Subsidies --- possibly, but we'd need a little more about the man before I'd jump on the "hypocrite" bandwagon. Do you have some background on Farm Subsidies he's received?
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Well, I don't see SS or Medicare users being a "parasite" as I think he'd have to pay into that system without having a choice about opting out and keeping his money. About Farm Subsidies --- possibly, but we'd need a little more about the man before I'd jump on the "hypocrite" bandwagon. Do you have some background on Farm Subsidies he's received?
    Nevermind the SS, the Medicare or even the farm subsidies. He had no problem with accepting free help from the fire department.

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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Nevermind the SS, the Medicare or even the farm subsidies. He had no problem with accepting free help from the fire department.
    You mean The Rich Hill volunteer fire department? Volunteer fire departments are subsidized and gather funds from the community. And I'm not sure he wouldn't have let it burn as the story doesn't identify HE called the fire department - just that the VOLUNTEER fire department responded.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    More like corporations outsourcing manufacturing jobs to India and China, which helps their bottom line at the expense of the American economy. So yes, it's sort of like sending money to Mexico, only on an exponentially greater scale. Not to mention those undocumented immigrants you speak so contemptuously of are contributing more to our economy than they are taking away.
    And what is the lesson?
    What would Adam Smith say? He did mention something about letting others mfg. what they can when they are cheaper.
    You don't want to grow oranges in Alaska... do you?
    That's what these companies face.

    These companies are right to move their businesses to more profitable waters.
    They need to compete and survive. Prosper hopefully.
    Dead companies staying in America don't offer jobs.

    The problem is in large part an American society that has let burdens be loaded on producers from all angles.
    At some point the straws add up to the point of pain.
    So, a business either throws in the towel, or lifts its middle finger when it can and moves.
    Good.

    Perhaps future generations will relearn age old lessons.

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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    His words are a little strong, but he has the freedom to say them and display it on his property. I would say many Democrats support a parasitic budget plan where the government feeds off of our money and money that we don't have. However, Republicans haven't been as fiscally conservative as they would have us believe. Far nastier things are said about the Republican party.
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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    And what is the lesson?
    What would Adam Smith say?
    Frankly I don't care what Adam Smith would say because I don't blindly follow irrelevant dogmas established 300 years ago. Modern global economics would have boggled Smith's mind.

    A more relevant question might be what would John Maynard Keynes have to say?

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    These companies are right to move their businesses to more profitable waters.
    They need to compete and survive.
    Dead companies don't offer jobs either.
    Better those companies fail than send their jobs to competing economies. They might have the right to outsource, but we as Americans also have the right to protect our economy.

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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    However, Republicans haven't been as fiscally conservative as they would have us believe.
    Amen to that. If Republicans had understood the true meaning of fiscal conservatism during the Bush years, the economy wouldn't be in the mess it's in right now.
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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

    Ahhh gee...

    ... that's too bad..

    Couldn't of happened to a nicer reactionary partisan tool.

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    Re: Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

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    Frankly I don't care what Adam Smith would say because I don't blindly follow irrelevant dogmas established 300 years ago. Modern global economics would have boggled Smith's mind.
    Timeless lessons.
    Markets are markets, and human nature is human nature.
    The world is closer... like a collection of states 150-years ago.
    But the fundamentals are still true.

    A more relevant question might be what would John Maynard Keynes have to say?
    Keynes, Galbraith... tried and failed.
    Stagflation wasn't supposed to happen according to Keynes. It did happen and Boom went the Dynamite!

    JFK stated the path to prosperity in his 1962 Economics Club of NY speech.
    Cut taxes, cut regulations, lift burdens... not for a short fix, but a permanent fix.

    Better those companies fail than send their jobs to competing economies. They might have the right to outsource, but we as Americans also have the right to protect our economy.
    Protect it they haven't done.
    They have put massive burdens on the employer and their business.
    At both the state and federal level.

    "Spread the Wealth Around".

    California was once the Golden State; business friendly.
    Now it's business hostile, and well... look at the financial fiasco.

    Perhaps we need more illegals to right the economy.
    20 million ain't enough.


    Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post
    Ahhh gee...

    ... that's too bad..

    Couldn't of happened to a nicer reactionary partisan tool.
    Did you read the article?
    I'd wager you didn't.

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    Last edited by zimmer; 06-21-10 at 02:15 PM.
    The Clintons are what happens...
    when you have NO MORAL COMPASS.

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