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Missouri man's incendiary sign on U.S. 71 draws fire

Stop that. If you start using logic and start dealing in reality then people who can't actually argue anything can't use over the top hyperbolic stereotypes such as suggesting that conservatives are anarchists and that if you dislike excessive federal government bloating and redistribution programs you must obviously believe that every portion of government and its purposes must cease to exist entirely.

Ah, I see where you go wrong. It's not "anarchists", it is "antichrists". Conservatives are antichrists. Who knew there would be some many antichrists.
 
More like corporations outsourcing manufacturing jobs to India and China, which helps their bottom line at the expense of the American economy.

The added cost of American labor would be passed onto consumers. I doubt you or anyone else is willing to pay a big premium for American-made merchandise.

$1,000 PS3 or $50 T-shirts anyone?

So yes, it's sort of like sending money to Mexico, only on an exponentially greater scale. Not to mention those undocumented immigrants you speak so contemptuously of are contributing more to our economy than they are taking away.

I don't have a big problem with immigrants that work and mind their own business, but I don't have a problem with profitable companies delivering a product or service at a good price either.
 
Frankly I don't care what Adam Smith would say because I don't blindly follow irrelevant dogmas established 300 years ago.

You think the father of modern economics is irrelevant? And what's "dogmatic" about his economic theories and philosophies? Have you even read any of his works?

Modern global economics would have boggled Smith's mind.

I very much doubt that, as the man was an intellectual giant, a true genius, but I'd love to see an example of something about "global economics" that would've boggled Smith's mind. Please, give me an example.

A more relevant question might be what would John Maynard Keynes have to say?

Adam Smith's economic theories and observations are "irrelevant dogma" while Keynes is an economic mastermind? Because you say so, right?

Better those companies fail than send their jobs to competing economies. They might have the right to outsource, but we as Americans also have the right to protect our economy.

Populism and protectionism are surefire ways to kill an economy. They've never once worked for anyone, ever, yet you still advocate them and refer to free-market economics as "irrelevant dogma". I don't know how anyone could take you seriously.
 
And you would lose.
Well, that says a lot.

Some idiot puts out his hate-filled reactionary patisan philosophy in giant letters, in the form of a deliberate insult, to many millions of people in full public view of literally thousands of people and got a very negative response for dong so. That's what sometimes happens when you do stupid stuff.
Hate filled?
What? A point of view isn't permitted?
Politic discourse?
You know thousand had a negative view?
If so, are we not allowed to confront people with the political choices they make?
What about the people that find it refreshing and funny?
Can we not have a laugh and enjoy the fact it might get some people thinking about what it means?
Do you believe in the 1st Amendment? You do know it was to preserve political discourse?

I thought leftists were tolerant?
Obviously questioning the course of the country has to be left to the NY Times, WaPO, TIME, Newsweek, CNN, MSNBC, The Old Three, and the Libs they support.
I guess the following only applies to the left.

We're sorry. We'll crawl back under our rocks.


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Quote Originally Posted by The Uncola View Post

And you would lose.

Some idiot puts out his hate-filled reactionary patisan philosophy in giant letters, in the form of a deliberate insult, to many millions of people in full public view of literally thousands of people and got a very negative response for dong so. That's what sometimes happens when you do stupid stuff.

"Hate-filled reactionary partisan philosophy"? I bet you're a fan of hate crimes legislation, aren't you? And hate = views that criticize your own.
Wrong attribution in post #24
Correction above.
http://www.debatepolitics.com/break...-sign-u-s-71-draws-fire-3.html#post1058816137
 
"Hate-filled reactionary partisan philosophy"? I bet you're a fan of hate crimes legislation, aren't you? And hate = views that criticize your own.

Nope, not particularly hung up pro or con on "hate crime legislation." Assume much?

The guy asked for trouble and he got it. Tends to happen to people who insist on showing their ass in public.
 
Well, that says a lot.


Hate filled?
What? A point of view isn't permitted?
Politic discourse?
You know thousand had a negative view?
If so, are we not allowed to confront people with the political choices they make?
What about the people that find it refreshing and funny?
Can we not have a laugh and enjoy the fact it might get some people thinking about what it means?
Do you believe in the 1st Amendment? You do know it was to preserve political discourse?

I thought leftists were tolerant?
Obviously questioning the course of the country has to be left to the NY Times, WaPO, TIME, Newsweek, CNN, MSNBC, The Old Three, and the Libs they support.
I guess the following only applies to the left.

We're sorry. We'll crawl back under our rocks.


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Where did I say any of the that crap? If you're just gonna make **** up, you don't need my help to find stuff to whine about. That dipstick can say anything he wants, just don't be surprised when it pisses somebody else off when he insults them and they retaliate. That's called reality, sorry that offends you.
 
Ahhh gee...

... that's too bad..

Couldn't of happened to a nicer reactionary partisan tool.

And you would lose.

Some idiot puts out his hate-filled reactionary patisan philosophy in giant letters, in the form of a deliberate insult, to many millions of people in full public view of literally thousands of people and got a very negative response for dong so. That's what sometimes happens when you do stupid stuff.

The guy asked for trouble and he got it. Tends to happen to people who insist on showing their ass in public.

That dipstick can say anything he wants, just don't be surprised when it pisses somebody else off when he insults them and they retaliate. That's called reality, sorry that offends you.


Interesting.

It's always nice to see an apologists for violent idiots do their spin.

WTG, you've almost convinced yourself.

Have a nice day.

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All of the crocodile denials aside, the actions of the lunatic fringers on the left, are by it's very definition, terrorism. By passively not aggressively condemning these terrorist acts, without equivocation and using the usual bully tactic of blame the victim, the leadership of the Democratic Party is indeed putting it's tacit seal of approval on them.


http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-pa...g-hysterics-over-violence.html#post1058643762

http://www.debatepolitics.com/gener...nse-liberty-no-vice-sic-3.html#post1058646060
 
More like corporations outsourcing manufacturing jobs to India and China, which helps their bottom line at the expense of the American economy. So yes, it's sort of like sending money to Mexico, only on an exponentially greater scale. Not to mention those undocumented immigrants you speak so contemptuously of are contributing more to our economy than they are taking away.

If by "contributing more to the economy than they are taking" you mean driving down wages for the average U.S. citizen, taking jobs that Americans not only will do but are desperate to have, not reinvesting the money they earn back into the U.S. economy because they either buy from hispanic owned shops which hire exclusively illegal immigrants or because they send their money back to Mexico, and not paying taxes while accepting free healthcare and public school for their children who they use as anchor babies, then ya they contribute a whole heck of a lot.
 
If I am not mistaken the fire department is a forum of socialism, since it is government owned aka owned by the area which you live. This person is in his full right to talk about his beliefs about the democrats thought I do agree with Reddress that the people who torched the sign are not in their right to burn it, since it would be arson which is against the law, and they should be punished fully according to the laws of that state regarding arson's.
 
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I dont condone what was done to this guys sign, but seriously, I dont feel sorry for him. Fundamentalism begets more fundamentalism in this case.
 
... have, not reinvesting the money they earn back into the U.S. economy because they either buy from hispanic owned shops...

Then start a white owned shop that sells hispanic goods and stop whining.

Which hire exclusively illegal immigrants

Most mexicans are legal. Also, knowing spanish helps one get hired there.

because they send their money back to Mexico
often true
and not paying taxes
Ive heard thats likely false, also I dont know of any businesses that are not taxed.

While accepting free healthcare and public school for their children who they use as anchor babies, then ya they contribute a whole heck of a lot.
:shrug: not a good situation, yeah.
 
Amen to that. If Republicans had understood the true meaning of fiscal conservatism during the Bush years, the economy wouldn't be in the mess it's in right now.

Come, come... you have to go a little deeper than that.

Freddie & Fannie have their roots with Carter.
The Clinton years saw banks being forced under the full weight and force of the law, to loan money to people they normally wouldn't and shouldn't.
Democrats vehemently defended Fred & Fan.

But, I will agree. Bush should have been tighter with spending.
He should have been looking to freeze, cut and gut... everything except the military.

The military was stretched thin; this after we were assured we could fight a 2-front war during the Clinton years.

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Where did I say any of the that crap? If you're just gonna make **** up, you don't need my help to find stuff to whine about. That dipstick can say anything he wants, just don't be surprised when it pisses somebody else off when he insults them and they retaliate. That's called reality, sorry that offends you.

You stated:
Some idiot puts out his hate-filled reactionary patisan philosophy in giant letters, in the form of a deliberate insult, to many millions of people in full public view of literally thousands of people and got a very negative response for dong so. That's what sometimes happens when you do stupid stuff.
I quoted you accurately and based on this post of yours, my questions were pertinent.
Just was curious how someone could come up with such a view as yours.

Now I see that you condone violence when something might offend someone.

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Care to explain this? Is this like illegals sending money home to Mexico?

Worse. With outsourcing, it involves sums of money that make the money illegals send to Mexico to look like a small tip given to a pizza delivery guy.
 
Jungerman said he didn’t mean to direct his sign at local Democrats. Many of those are old-fashioned Harry Truman Democrats, he said.

:rofl Dumbass, Backpedal faster!!

Reminds me of Natural Born Killers - when Scagnetti and McClusky are walking and talking - and Scagnetti calls people from Texas assholes - and McClusky snarks that his mother's from Texas . . . and then Scagnetti immediately backpeddles and says "well I mean those other assholes - the assholes that use to beat the **** out of me in grade school"
 
He's wrong about everything, of course-- the only parasites we should be concernced about are multinational corporations siphoning this country's money like leeches-- but it's a shame some hoodlums vandalized his property.

You mean cats like George Soros? You ready see his ass get kicked out of the country?
 
You mean cats like George Soros? You ready see his ass get kicked out of the country?

That's quite a non sequitur to take from what I said. I wouldn't want to see anyone "kicked out of the country" but I'd love to see some legislation that required Soros and every other businessman to keep the jobs they create in the USA if they want to do business here.
 
That's quite a non sequitur to take from what I said. I wouldn't want to see anyone "kicked out of the country" but I'd love to see some legislation that required Soros and every other businessman to keep the jobs they create in the USA if they want to do business here.

Well, he sorta was, but Obama fixed that with the drilling moratorium. Now, the jobs that were created here, by Petrobras, are going to shipped to Brazil, when those deepwater rigs make their move. Maybe Obama new that Petrobras needed some rigs and helped them out?
 
Well, he sorta was, but Obama fixed that with the drilling moratorium.

I'm not just talking about jobs created by oil, as important as those might be, all jobs that are outsourced overseas hurt the economy. Start with bringing back manufacturing jobs from China and IT jobs from India before you go into histrionics about deepwater drilling lost to Brazil.
 
I'm not just talking about jobs created by oil, as important as those might be, all jobs that are outsourced overseas hurt the economy. Start with bringing back manufacturing jobs from China and IT jobs from India before you go into histrionics about deepwater drilling lost to Brazil.

The only way to do that is to make the US a mor business friendly country. Lower corporate taxes and less regulation. As long as other countries under-tax and under-regulate us, we're going to lose jobs to those countries.

The lastest killing off of oilfield jobs is only the most recent example of how government policies force jobs overseas.

Obama wants more tax dollars? He should create a more business friendly environment. Until then, the job market in the US won't improve.
 
...all jobs that are outsourced overseas hurt the economy.

This simply isn't true. Outsourcing hurts the people who lose their jobs but benefits the consumer with lower prices. In the end, it's a net positive for the economy.

Start with bringing back manufacturing jobs from China...

Never going to happen. Not unless we lower taxes and relax our labor laws.

...and IT jobs from India...

Again, it will never happen unless we lower taxes and relax our labor laws.
 
Obama wants more tax dollars? He should create a more business friendly environment. Until then, the job market in the US won't improve.

This simply isn't true. Outsourcing hurts the people who lose their jobs but benefits the consumer with lower prices. In the end, it's a net positive for the economy.

These are very single-minded ways of looking at the issue. To say that outsourcing benefits consumers by providing lower prices ignores the fact that it sends jobs away from this economy. What good are lower prices without jobs? We buy the goods with our money that then goes overseas and becomes their money, slowly draining our economy. It's overall hurting our economy to lose manufacturing jobs, just look at Detroit, to claim it's a net positive is disingenuous.

Never going to happen. Not unless we lower taxes and relax our labor laws.

OR we could enforce more stringent restriction on companies who decide to take advantage of cheap overseas labor by refusing to allow the import of overseas manufactured goods. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and instead of relaxing laws that protect workers we should force the multinationals to provide their jobs in the economy they expect to sell their goods and services to. I know it's hard for some koolaid drinking conservatives to believe but the so-called free makert is not the best decision-maker, and government can actually be a force for good if it works to protect our economy.
 
These are very single-minded ways of looking at the issue. To say that outsourcing benefits consumers by providing lower prices ignores the fact that it sends jobs away from this economy. What good are lower prices without jobs? We buy the goods with our money that then goes overseas and becomes their money, slowly draining our economy. It's overall hurting our economy to lose manufacturing jobs, just look at Detroit, to claim it's a net positive is disingenuous.

I nevr said that.


OR we could enforce more stringent restriction on companies who decide to take advantage of cheap overseas labor by refusing to allow the import of overseas manufactured goods. There is more than one way to skin a cat, and instead of relaxing laws that protect workers we should force the multinationals to provide their jobs in the economy they expect to sell their goods and services to. I know it's hard for some koolaid drinking conservatives to believe but the so-called free makert is not the best decision-maker, and government can actually be a force for good if it works to protect our economy.

So, facism is the answer? Mmmm'kay!
 
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