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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    A democrat controlled congress
    Congress is no longer what it has been. The Republicans have set a new precedent in the senate where every law now needs a sixty vote majority. This will come back to haunt them.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Congress is no longer what it has been. The Republicans have set a new precedent in the senate where every law now needs a sixty vote majority. This will come back to haunt them.
    That was started by dems under Bush as was filibustering judges

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    That was started by dems under Bush as was filibustering judges
    Not true. The facts say otherwise. Would you like referencess?

    http://www.senate.gov/pagelayout/ref...tureCounts.htm
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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Not true. The facts say otherwise. Would you like referencess?

    U.S. Senate: Reference Home >
    It appears it started under Bush. Dems set a precedent and now have to live with it. As they did filibustering judges.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    It appears it started under Bush. Dems set a precedent and now have to live with it. As they did filibustering judges.
    Oh I see. Like a little kid saying, "He hit me first, mommy". You are appealing to "that two wrongs make a right".

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    Oh I see. Like a little kid saying, "He hit me first, mommy". You are appealing to "that two wrongs make a right".
    The truth hurts so you get sarcastic? The dems must live with what they started. Wait till the GOP fillibusters a judge

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Your chart is broken.
    It doesn't include the off budget debt which when it was in surplus was used to pay off the national debt, during the Clinton era.

    Manipulating numbers, tisk tisk.
    National debt is the debt held by the public plus the off budget debt. Everything is included. Off budget items do not sit idle. When they are in surplus the government issues special tresuaries so they can incorporate that money into the budget. So in reality, it would be possible to have a budget surplus and increase national debt (since SS would also be in surplus). Notice nothing in the red that year, everything in surplus. So the whole clinton fake surplus thing is a hoax, there was a budget surplus, period, more came in than went out. If you are going to argue that debt from the trust funds increased the national debt, well that would only be possible if those programs were in surplus to begin with.
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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    The truth hurts so you get sarcastic? The dems must live with what they started. Wait till the GOP fillibusters a judge
    The truth does not hurt me because I am the truth.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Wow, ROFLMABCDEFGFHIKJKLMNOPAO!!!! Not your sis. Though you're probably comfortable calling anyone your sis, don't know why.
    It's a term of endearment...

    You haven't refuted any of the budget information, all you've done is shown your own prejudice.
    I wasn't aware that refutation could not come as the result of a personal prejudice... But if you can show the board how the two concepts are mutually exclusive, my minds open to the possibility.

    Good luck with that.

    How do impeachment and a reform of the military factor into budget calculations? They don't. Right, because undermining US principles is synonymous with providing healthcare for its citizens.
    Impeachment has nothing to do with a budget... but this straw dog begs the question: "Who said it did?" Subverting the readiness of the US Intelligence and Military on the other hand would come into Economic play... as each are not only specific budget items, the cost of such is incalculable and requires exponential spending to re-establish the necessary readiness, in the wake of their failure to resist an attack upon the US. For instance, the attack of 9-11-01, took 3 hours to execute and cost the US economy a trillion dollars.

    Feel better?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opteron View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitum
    ... refusing to open up lines of communication between US intelligence and US Law Enforcement;
    How is this relevant to the budget? It's not, but you will take any opportunity you can to spout your propaganda.
    Well, it actually does... the attack of 9-11-01, which took three hours to execute, cost the US economy a trillion dollars. Now when the US Economy loses production, the US treasury loses revenue that would have been produced by taxing that production. The consequence of which inevitably effects the budgeted spending, by forcing the government to spend in deficit, as a result of the lost but otherwise anticipated revenues.

    Wow, you have such solid evidence, anecdotal prejudiced opinion, that will turn anybody's heads!
    Oh I hear ya Sis... And may I just say what a DELICIOUSLY SWEET Irony you serve...


    Have you forgot about the Bush taxcuts for the rich? Don't forget the entirely optional excursion into Iraq, which costs 700$-800$ billion. And you must be talking about the teach-to-the-test wonderful education program which has gotten so much criticism. Anyone can make a prescription medicare drug program, the tricky part is how you're going to pay for it.
    So... do you actually feel that this sort of cliche ridden drivel actually serves as a viable alternative to valid reasoning? Or are ya just sufficiently stubborn to set aside any concern for your own credibility.

    First, Bush cut income taxes across the board...

    Second, all war is optional... but setting that immutable truth aside, Iraq was a consistent and long term proponent of international Islamic terrorism... 9-11 changed the paradigm of acceptable risk and President Hussein's terrorist promoting socialist government didn't make the cut established by the new threshold. That doesn't change the 'option' fact... but it does establish the perfect moral justification for removing the threat.

    And yes, I am speaking of the Kennedy Education bill, which GW signed... and the expansion to Medicare. Which is how GW managed to capture records on both ends of the popularity scale during his two terms. And you're right... anyone can steal money and give to those who didin't earn it... and paying for it, well, it's theft... one can't pay for it. Which AGAIN... is the reason GW became anathema to those who voted for him twice... four times in my case.


    You don't have anything substantive to say because you simply can't refute the facts. Bush doubled the debt, Clinton didn't.
    ROFLMNAO... Ain't delusion grand?

    Bush inherited the Clinton recession and the ramifications for Clinton intelligence policy which resulted in 9-11, the loss of 1 trillion dollars in economic production, which was immediately followed by the global war on islamic terrorism... that doesn't excuse his expanding social entitlements on scales not seen since the early 60s... but that's always been the flaw in GW... he simply never recognized that Leftists are to be berated and ignored, not encouraged by toleration.

    But hey... Progressivism happens and waddayagonnado? Right?

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Well in THIS case he is F-in RIGHT!!!! The right wing assholes wont vote for a unemployment extension!!! F THEM!!! There are NO FREAKIN JOBS!!! I CANT GET A DAMN JOB!!!!!!!!!!!!! How am I supposed to live!?!?! I have no spouse. I have no one I can move in with. I cant even find a crap job.

    I will never vote republican again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Yet the a-hole Repubs have PLEANTY of money for earmarks. I used to be a hard-core republican until I got thrown under the bus. I can not even BEGIN to say how hurt and afraid I am.
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