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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Being for the underdog isn't a bad thing but the problem is liberal social programs never truly help the underdog and makes that underdog more dependent. We have laws in place to preven monopoliies, enforce the laws, don't just make new ones.
    I disagree. There are a lot of liberal social programs that actually do help the disadvantaged, both private and government ones.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Define help for me, if you mean implementing programs that cost more than intended, does less than intended, never solving a problem , and never going away, then I agree. All liberal programs do is reduce incentive and keep people dependent. Free enterprise, capitalism, and individual wealth creation make people less dependent on govt. and that is what threatens liberals who truly have no interest in "helping" people but instead are created to retain power.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    ... This bs about cutting spending is nothing but a scam to make the rich, richer and the working people subservient to the elitist oligarchy that cvontrols the world through their political puppets.
    How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the rich richer?

    How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the working people subservient to the worlds controlling oligarchy?

    Specifically: name the specific elements that comprise the worlds controlling oligarchy.

    Now that ^^ is what I like to call a thorough refutation.

    When the member fails to substantiate a single of their assertions, then they will have conceded, by only default, that this tedious Socialist boilerplate is baseless, addle-minded drivel.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I disagree. There are a lot of liberal social programs that actually do help the disadvantaged, both private and government ones.
    There are precisely NO liberal social programs which help anyone. One can't claim that a program has helped someone while ignoring the damage which they've induced.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the rich richer?

    How does cutting Federal Spending of Tax Dollars make the working people subservient to the worlds controlling oligarchy?

    Specifically: name the specific elements that comprise the worlds controlling oligarchy.

    Now that ^^ is what I like to call a thorough refutation.

    When the member fails to substantiate a single of their assertions, then they will have conceded, by only default, that this tedious Socialist boilerplate is baseless, addle-minded drivel.
    The rich will always have their money. Most working people work from week to week deeply indebted to the rich.

    The interest that we pay for our debit goes to the filthy rich. It does not disappear into thin air. If we pay down the deficit instead of creating jobs we make the rich, richer.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    There are precisely NO liberal social programs which help anyone. One can't claim that a program has helped someone while ignoring the damage which they've induced.
    BS. I got started on my career with the "Manpower Traning And Development Act" back in the 70's. Since that time I have paid thousands in taxes back to the treasury.

    I do volunteer work for a charitable organization. It helps thousands of people to own their own home. One donor to this organization recently gave a donation of 100 million dollars.

    There are a lot of homeless mentally ill people living either in jail or on the streets who are helped through social programs, government and private.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. What is your experience with liberal/conservative social programs that you can make such an absurd statement?

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    BS. I got started on my career with the "Manpower Traning And Development Act" back in the 70's. Since that time I have paid thousands in taxes back to the treasury.

    I do volunteer work for a charitable organization. It helps thousands of people to own their own home. One donor to this organization recently gave a donation of 100 million dollars.

    There are a lot of homeless mentally ill people living either in jail or on the streets who are helped through social programs, government and private.

    You have no idea what you are talking about. What is your experience with liberal/conservative social programs that you can make such an absurd statement?
    ROFLMNAO!

    I see...

    So you got your start in your career, through a liberal program? And you demand that the proof that this liberal program 'helped you' is found in the evidence that you've since 'paid thousands in taxes...' and your working for charity to help people own there own home, and one donor to your charity giving a hundred million dollar donation.

    My my... IF I shall ever find a Leftist that doesn't feel CERTAIN that truth rests in fallacious reasoning I think I shall finally rest from debating you people...

    You've offered absolutely NO evidence that you were helped by a Social entitlement. You've simply barked off a baseless assertion which you expect this board to accept as fact.

    Here's an example of what I'm getting at...

    Leftists efforts toward 'helping people to own their own home' recently collapsed the world-wide economy... setting what amounts in truth, to approaching 1/4 of the US work force being un-employed, most of which having lost their means to pay for their homes, will likely end up losing their homes. Here's what ya need to understand about Leftism, or socialism, or progressivism... or whatever shingle you happen to be slithering under at any given moment, the only potential result which has EVER come from the policy set forth by such, is precisely the opposite as that which is advertised as the goal.

    Ya see, it's raw evil, friend... Deceit and fraud, it is the closest thing that Leftism can look to as it's soul.

    But hey... if you should come up with an actual example of social entitlements or leftist policy having finally resulted in a good... please, do not hesitate to share it with us.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by PubliusInfinitu View Post
    ROFLMNAO!

    I see...

    So you got your start in your career, through a liberal program? And you demand that the proof that this liberal program 'helped you' is found in the evidence that you've since 'paid thousands in taxes...' and your working for charity to help people own there own home, and one donor to your charity giving a hundred million dollar donation.

    My my... IF I shall ever find a Leftist that doesn't feel CERTAIN that truth rests in fallacious reasoning I think I shall finally rest from debating you people...

    You've offered absolutely NO evidence that you were helped by a Social entitlement. You've simply barked off a baseless assertion which you expect this board to accept as fact.

    Here's an example of what I'm getting at...

    Leftists efforts toward 'helping people to own their own home' recently collapsed the world-wide economy... setting what amounts in truth, to approaching 1/4 of the US work force being un-employed, most of which having lost their means to pay for their homes, will likely end up losing their homes. Here's what ya need to understand about Leftism, or socialism, or progressivism... or whatever shingle you happen to be slithering under at any given moment, the only potential result which has EVER come from the policy set forth by such, is precisely the opposite as that which is advertised as the goal.

    Ya see, it's raw evil, friend... Deceit and fraud, it is the closest thing that Leftism can look to as it's soul.

    But hey... if you should come up with an actual example of social entitlements or leftist policy having finally resulted in a good... please, do not hesitate to share it with us.
    Since you find me so hilarious, there is nothing that I could say to you to change your mind. That will come to you later in life when you find out that you are not immortal.

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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by LiberalAvenger View Post
    I disagree. There are a lot of liberal social programs that actually do help the disadvantaged, both private and government ones.
    MOst of them are akin to a pusher saying that the dope he sells to an addict actually do help them

    private charity is far better since it is not based on pandering to voters which is probably why Obama is trying to cut back on private charity with tax schemes that will discourage giving.



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    Re: Obama says GOP making life harder for the jobless

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    MOst of them are akin to a pusher saying that the dope he sells to an addict actually do help them

    private charity is far better since it is not based on pandering to voters which is probably why Obama is trying to cut back on private charity with tax schemes that will discourage giving.
    Our own government is the biggest dope pusher in the world.

    To say that social programs are like dope is a terrible analogy. Now I guess you say that they are addictive. Well, so is the biggest drug of all, money.

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