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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Firs of all, the Russian Helicopters that are purchased are converted already to the terrain in the area, the helicopters are much more recognized by the Afghan pilots as the history shows the involvment of Russian influence in the area.
    It's funny, that the US helped the Afghan Taliban by giving them AA's and RPG's in the 80's for knocking down the same helicopters they now purchasing for the Afghans, when the Afghan rebels resisted the Soviets.

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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    Quote(The U.S. government is snapping up Russian-made helicopters to form the core of Afghanistan's fledgling air force, a strategy that is drawing flak from members of Congress who want to force the Afghans to fly American choppers instead.

    In a turnabout from the Cold War, when the CIA gave Stinger missiles to Afghan rebels to shoot down Soviet helicopters, the Pentagon has spent $648 million to buy or refurbish 31 Russian Mi-17 transport helicopters for the Afghan National Army Air Corps. The Defense Department is seeking to buy 10 more of the Mi-17s next year, and had planned to buy dozens more over the next decade.)

    Guess Obami is simply following the communist path to greater glory!
    I see the irony, but then there's practicality. The irony isn't wasted here believe me - but frankly, I don't see the Opium money going to buy the helo's so while I detest Obama policy, this issue I don't have a problem with. I don't want to give America's best technology to Afghanistan - nor any other country if possible. So older Mi17 with some rocket pods on them for Afghans own use - great. More power to them.
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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Obama is spending too much. Obama is spending too much. Why isn't Obama spending more. Why don't you make up your mind what you want, beyond complaining about Obama.
    Um they could have used that $648 billion to buy American, at least then the spending would have been reinvested into our own economy rather than that of a foreign power.

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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    If he would have given them American made helicopters, you would have complained about him spending on the more expensive ones.
    Uh these helicopters were likely purchased from the Russian's mothballed aircraft, likewise we could have sold them cheaper outdated aircraft as well. We could have sold them black hawks and cobras.

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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    What about creating american jobs? Hope and change, anybody?

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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What about creating american jobs? Hope and change, anybody?
    Why create jobs when we can financially aid our enemies? Duh.

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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What about creating american jobs? Hope and change, anybody?
    There's still 2/3 of the stimulus package left, and this is an election year, so depending on how many months it takes to get up to speed, look for more spending on infrastructure jobs. It's all about dirty politics, not the people.

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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    What about creating american jobs? Hope and change, anybody?
    .... 678$ million wouldn't create any jobs. We'd simply sell them the **** we don't use.
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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by Agent Ferris View Post
    Uh these helicopters were likely purchased from the Russian's mothballed aircraft, likewise we could have sold them cheaper outdated aircraft as well. We could have sold them black hawks and cobras.
    O'rly?

    You can buy 3 Mi-17s for the price of a single blackhawk. Furthermore, delays in training aren't helping and shipping these things would be a colossal pain. The decision to buy the Russian equipment from a tactical, non-partisan objective view is better then buying American.
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    Re: U.S. military criticized for purchase of Russian copters for Afghan air corps

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
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    Quote(The U.S. government is snapping up Russian-made helicopters to form the core of Afghanistan's fledgling air force, a strategy that is drawing flak from members of Congress who want to force the Afghans to fly American choppers instead.

    In a turnabout from the Cold War, when the CIA gave Stinger missiles to Afghan rebels to shoot down Soviet helicopters, the Pentagon has spent $648 million to buy or refurbish 31 Russian Mi-17 transport helicopters for the Afghan National Army Air Corps. The Defense Department is seeking to buy 10 more of the Mi-17s next year, and had planned to buy dozens more over the next decade.)

    Guess Obami is simply following the communist path to greater glory!
    The Russians make some very nice equipment.
    It's not a big deal.
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