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    N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    By Chico Harlan
    Washington Post Foreign Service
    Friday, June 18, 2010; 4:27 PM


    SEOUL -- Bowing to reality, the North Korean government has lifted all restrictions on private markets -- a last-resort option for a leadership desperate to prevent its people from starving.

    In recent weeks, according to North Korea observers and defector groups with sources in the country, Kim Jong Il's government admitted its inability to solve the current food shortage and encouraged its people to rely on private markets for the purchase of goods. Though the policy reversal will not alter daily patterns -- North Koreans have depended on such markets for more than 15 years -- the latest order from Pyongyang abandons a key pillar of a central, planned economy.

    With November's currency revaluation, Kim wiped out his citizens' personal savings and struck a blow against the private food distribution system sustaining his country. The latest policy switch, though, stands as an acknowledgment that the currency move was a failure and that only capitalist-style trading can prevent widespread famine.
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    Free markets or die from starvation. Must it come to such an extreme to see the light?
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
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    Free markets or die from starvation. Must it come to such an extreme to see the light?
    Kim Jong Il didn't see the light. He felt the heat.
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    We can only pray that the US elects a real president, who will blockade N Korea until the regime collapses. Then China can help pay for the country's reconstruction and re-unification with the South.

    I also hope the UN will bring charges against China for violating its committments to various Human Rights conventions preventing the non-repatriation of refugees seeking shelter from murderous regimes.

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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    We can only pray that the US elects a real president, who will blockade N Korea until the regime collapses.
    That won't work. It has been tried for decades without success. North Korea is already the most sanctioned country on earth.

    Then China can help pay for the country's reconstruction and re-unification with the South.
    I don't think so. China propped up NK primarily because they don't want a U.S. backed country sitting right on their border.

    I also hope the UN will bring charges against China for violating its committments to various Human Rights conventions preventing the non-repatriation of refugees seeking shelter from murderous regimes.
    China will then veto or ignore them, and nothing will happen as a result.

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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by joergan View Post
    We can only pray that the US elects a real president, who will blockade N Korea until the regime collapses. Then China can help pay for the country's reconstruction and re-unification with the South.

    I also hope the UN will bring charges against China for violating its committments to various Human Rights conventions preventing the non-repatriation of refugees seeking shelter from murderous regimes.
    Yeah, starve them some more! That'll show them!
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by joergan View Post
    We can only pray that the US elects a real president, who will blockade N Korea until the regime collapses. Then China can help pay for the country's reconstruction and re-unification with the South.
    What makes you think China will be willing to pay for North Korea re-unifying with South Korea when it is the U.S., in your scenario, that caused North Korea to fall?

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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    That won't work. It has been tried for decades without success. North Korea is already the most sanctioned country on earth.
    What will not work, praying?
    Or electing a "real" President to do the bidding of warmongers?
    Or sanctions?


    I don't think so. China propped up NK primarily because they don't want a U.S. backed country sitting right on their border.



    China will then veto or ignore them, and nothing will happen as a result.
    What separates us from the monkeys is that when we do something and it does not work, we re-think and try something new. . . Monkeys will keep on doing things the old way.

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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    What makes you think China will be willing to pay for North Korea re-unifying with South Korea when it is the U.S., in your scenario, that caused North Korea to fall?
    China will not pay for reunification, indeed nor should they.
    South Korea will be the paymasters much the same as West Germany was when reunification of East Germany to West Germany enabled the whole to become Germany.

    N. Korea failed for much the same reason the USSR failed, it's leaders thought that they could hold on to power indefinitely principally by having strong armed forces equipped with the best equipment they could afford, to the detriment of the civil population.

    I hope that the people will rise up and throw the megalomaniac and his issue out of power in much the same way the Romanians did, although I have my doubts they have the stomach for that.
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    I said it facetiously about getting china to pay for the re-unification.

    As for further sanctions, nk makes most of its money from illegal arms/tech sales, so a blockade would starve the regime of its bribery money, which would dry up any internal support left.

    As for "starving them more," the US/West isn't starving anyone - it is the jong il regime that is doing that. The leftist "blame the West" mentality is something that monkeys would do, since they seem to repeat it over and over.

    It's just like what they did with iraq - blame the West for the iraqi sanctions, or with African countries, where the leftists want to endlessly throw money at the failed dictatorships over there without end.
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    As for further sanctions, nk makes most of its money from illegal arms/tech sales, so a blockade would starve the regime of its bribery money, which would dry up any internal support left.
    Trying to intercept every ship leaving from NK would inevitably lead to war, so its a non-option. NK is a particularly bad situation because we have exhausted nearly every peaceful solution there is.

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