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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
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    Free markets or die from starvation. Must it come to such an extreme to see the light?
    You mean North Korean is giving in to the evils of capitalism? I wonder if the Democrats will follow suit now?
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Option 1 would lead to the starvation of most of the population. The militay hordes any and all resources necessary to survive, and the civilian population is left to die as it is. If you strangle them, the weak die first.
    Perhaps elements of the army might turn to reality, and help overthrow the regime. Maybe in coordination with a blockade, the West could make behind-the-scenes contacts with senior army officials there promising amnesty for past crimes if they order troops to help remove the regime...

    Option 2 leads to mass casualties in Seoul as the North Korean artillery lays waste to the city. Not to mention the extremely large number of ground troops NK has.
    It would obviously be a signal to the north, but once the West has decided that it can no longer tolerate this regime - a decision it should have reached the moment it discovered that it was selling nuclear weapons technologies abroad to terror sponsors - the seoul population could be transferred south out of range of the artillery fire. A full-scale bunker development program similar to what israel has instituted, could also be implemented to give south koreans shelter.

    As for the ground troops, the West would have a massive air and materials advantage, so this would negate some, if not all, of the NK troops. Kind of hard to run across the border when you are being carpet bombed with things like daisy cutters and spread bomblets.

    Personally, i agree this would lead to significant casualties, but the n koreans are selling nuclear weapons know-how to cancerous regimes like syria and iran, who will no doubt try to use them as blackmail against others. Eventually, NK might and probably will decide to sell to groups like al qaeda once the number of potential rogue regime customers has dried up.

    You either fight a war now to clean up the garbage on your terms - or wait until they are far more powerful and do so on theirs. When the options are:

    A-all out war to eradicate NK, iran, and syria's regimes
    B-allow them to grow immensely more powerful and a greater threat, blackmailing the West in many ways

    I'll take option A.

    The West could have take option A in 1933, but waited until they were attacked when the Germans were far more powerful. Hitler himself said he was shocked the West allowed him to build a navy and airforce, it was what propelled him to push further and further.

    Option 3: Status Quo.
    In the words of the immortal Beck in the "Rundown," "there is no option "C"".
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    Re: N. Korea lifts restrictions on private markets as last resort in food crisis

    Perhaps elements of the army might turn to reality, and help overthrow the regime. Maybe in coordination with a blockade, the West could make behind-the-scenes contacts with senior army officials there promising amnesty for past crimes if they order troops to help remove the regime...
    There are zero intelligence assets inside NK, completely unworkable.

    It would obviously be a signal to the north, but once the West has decided that it can no longer tolerate this regime - a decision it should have reached the moment it discovered that it was selling nuclear weapons technologies abroad to terror sponsors - the seoul population could be transferred south out of range of the artillery fire. A full-scale bunker development program similar to what israel has instituted, could also be implemented to give south koreans shelter.
    You can't build a bunker large enough to fit the entire population of Seoul. Even if if you could, NK has plenty of chemical weapons and likely some nuclear ones as well. You can't escape the massive casualties.

    Personally, i agree this would lead to significant casualties, but the n koreans are selling nuclear weapons know-how to cancerous regimes like syria and iran, who will no doubt try to use them as blackmail against others. Eventually, NK might and probably will decide to sell to groups like al qaeda once the number of potential rogue regime customers has dried up.
    AQ doesn't own any of the needed materials or facilities to build nuclear weapons, so they are harmless. Syria had its program destroyed by Israel, and it would be infinitely easier to attack Iran than NK.

    You either fight a war now to clean up the garbage on your terms - or wait until they are far more powerful and do so on theirs. When the options are:
    NK has been getting weaker every year, not more powerful. Their military technology is seriously outdated and their only ally is starting to get cold feet. SK could probably beat them if it came to war, compared to the scenario 50 years ago.

    The West could have take option A in 1933, but waited until they were attacked when the Germans were far more powerful. Hitler himself said he was shocked the West allowed him to build a navy and airforce, it was what propelled him to push further and further.
    That is pathetic hindsight criticism at its worst. While we were at it, we should have bought a few of Hitlers paintings to keep him an art student.

    In the words of the immortal Beck in the "Rundown," "there is no option "C"".
    No option C is precisely the only option that makes sense.

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