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    Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban
    Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban - Yahoo! News

    By WILL WEISSERT, Associated Press Writer Will Weissert, Associated Press Writer – Thu Jun 17, 6:46 pm ET

    HAVANA – Five days after his release for health reasons, a former Cuban political prisoner added his name to a letter signed by nearly 500 opposition activists decrying proposed legislation that would lift the U.S. travel ban to their country.

    The letter, e-mailed to foreign reporters in Havana on Thursday, took the opposite approach of a statement last week supporting the same bill and signed by 74 dissidents, many with international notoriety — including Cuba's top blogger Yoani Sanchez, and Elizardo Sanchez, who is not related to Yoani but heads the island's top human rights group.
    Lifting the travel restrictions and allowing direct transfers between U.S. and Cuban banks, will most certainly lead to allowing Cuba credit for its purchases, specifically from agricultural states where farms and other agricultural businesses are heavily subsidized by the US tax payer. When the regime defaults on those credits, the responsibility for repayment will fall upon the American tax payer.

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    Lifting the travel restrictions and allowing direct transfers between U.S. and Cuban banks, will most certainly lead to allowing Cuba credit for its purchases, specifically from agricultural states where farms and other agricultural businesses are heavily subsidized by the US tax payer. When the regime defaults on those credits, the responsibility for repayment will fall upon the American tax payer.
    Are you kidding me? That is the most absurd slippery slope fallacy ever. There is absolutely no reason why we couldn't lift the travel ban without having to lend Cuba a bunch of money.

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    Are you kidding me? That is the most absurd slippery slope fallacy ever. There is absolutely no reason why we couldn't lift the travel ban without having to lend Cuba a bunch of money.
    IMO, having the Cuban Travel Ban only hurts the "little" or "small" man.
    Only the people inside a nation can hurt their government, but they must be willing to sacrifice, the same as our fore-father did in the 1700s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandokan View Post
    Lifting the travel restrictions and allowing direct transfers between U.S. and Cuban banks, will most certainly lead to allowing Cuba credit for its purchases, specifically from agricultural states where farms and other agricultural businesses are heavily subsidized by the US tax payer. When the regime defaults on those credits, the responsibility for repayment will fall upon the American tax payer.
    Possible good points..
    As irresponsible as our banks have been, they may well do something stupid....caused by greed.
    Another reason for banking reform...

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    More than 15 million of tourists which have visited Cuba over the past decade, haven’t been able to influence a political and economic opening of Castro’s totalitarian regime, nor will be the millions of American tourists that will visit Cuba. How is possible to believe that tourism and trade with the United States can do it?

    The majority of tourists in the island stay at hotels located in isolate places, where their contact whit the ordinary Cuban population is very limited. The hotel workers are prohibited to interact with foreigners outside of their workplace. The regimen has put in place a tourist apartheid system.

    The lifting of the travel restrictions shall not be base on the incorrect assumption that a large number of US tourists will trigger a clamor for democracy in Cuba. James Cason, former chief of the US Interests Section in Havana, said: ''Tourism has not brought down a totalitarian regime anywhere in history.''

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    You move from the slippery slope fallacy to the strawman. Nobody has claimed that tourism is going to take down the Castro regime. The removal the travel ban is would let tourists visit Cuba to have a nice vacation, not engage in political activism.

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    Has the Cuba travel ban ever had its intended result?
    The height of wisdom is to say, "I do not know." -Socrates

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by rathi View Post
    You move from the slippery slope fallacy to the strawman. Nobody has claimed that tourism is going to take down the Castro regime. The removal the travel ban is would let tourists visit Cuba to have a nice vacation, not engage in political activism.
    Nobody really cares about the dissidents plights and only seek cordial relations with Cuba. Tourists and investors won't remove Cuba from their itinerary due to the harsh conditions of the political prisoners.

    You can fly to Cuba via a third country like Canada, Haiti, Jamaica, Mexico, Caiman Islands, ect. Cuban authorities won't stamp your passport, and you won’t be counted among the visitors to the island. You have to bring cash or have a credit card issued by a bank in another country.

    Congressman Collin Peterson just wants the farmers from his state Minnesota to be able to sell their grain on easier terms to Cuba. He doesn’t care if the Castro regime defaults on the payment, because the American taxpayers will be ones picking up the bill, since the Federal Government guarantee the farmers sale in case of default.

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    Re: Dissidents decry US bill to end Cuba travel ban

    Quote Originally Posted by Goyboy View Post
    Has the Cuba travel ban ever had its intended result?
    Yes, because tourism is the main source of income for the regime, which is operated by the military. The US sanctions against tourism in Cuba prevent the increase in funds for Castro repressive military regime.

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