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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Does that mean adult sisters and brothers can marry as well?
    WE almost have the full set now. We have incest and pedophilia, now we just need bestiality and polygamy and we have the full set of gay marriage red herrings.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Cool. A live one.

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    Two things. One, what the law calls it is irrelevant. You can't equate legality with morality.
    Actually, when it comes to the law, your morality is irrelevant. If GM is legal, and your morality dictates that GM is sinful, you don't have to marry someone who is gay. Doesn't change the law, though. See? That's why from a legal perspective, your morality is irrelevant..

    They are not the same. Two, don't attempt to define my world. Your opinion is just that, an opinion.
    Just so you are aware, your opinion, too, is just that. An an opinion.

    On my side, several hundred million years of evolution.
    Appeal to popularity logical fallacy. Point negated.

    I can be tolerant, but I don't need sexual perversity shoved down my throat.
    As long as you understand that the term "sexual perversity" is nothing but your opinion.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No it doesn't. How about actually addressing the argument I made on the boilogical sexual reaction in people?

    Do you also think its just a coincidence that over 90% of the world is heterosexual? Seriously?
    Did you know that only 7% of the people in the world are left handed? Does that mean they choose to be?

    And who told you that adults are the only ones allowed for this preference?
    We don't allow people who aren't adults to enter into legal contracts.

    Does that mean adult sisters and brothers can marry as well?
    I have no issue with that personally, but it's beside the point. It actually *can* be demonstrated that children of siblings have a higher risk of genetic abnormalities. Can you demonstrate anything negative at all related to me signing a legal contract with another woman?

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Just kills you that homosexuality has no proven facutal basis in being anything more than a choice doesn't it?
    My motivations and feelings on the matter have nothing to do with the topic at hand. Further, this is not a response to anything relevant in this thread as this thread is about legal issues and you are blathering on about biology.

    Gay men have no different biological sexual reaction than straight men yet you want us to accept on belief that there is a genetic link to homosexuality despite any evidence in science in even a majority of homosexuals?
    I never made any claim in this thread concerning biology or genetics. Perhaps you would like to go back and actually ****ing read it before you start spewing your nonsense and showing everyone how deranged you become when this topic is approached?

    Heterosexuality is the only method for natural procreation.
    Well thank you, Captain Obvious.

    The biological sexual reaction is designed specifically for procreation.
    It isn't designed for anything. I mean, at least not until you speak to the Designer and ask him or her. Good luck with all that.

    Our bodies react specifically to sexual stimuli to prepare for procreation.
    Except when it's gay people or masturbation or recreational sex or sex with sperm barriers...

    So you've figured out you can get your jollies by going to another hole and that justifies a genetic link? Could you be a little more ridiculous?
    Again, what's ridiculous here is your assertion that I have claimed a genetic link, whatever that nebulous terminology means. Do you ever bother to read what's posted before you start sputtering and spitting your nonsense?

    No one is running around claiming blow jobs are genetic.
    You're correct. No one is claiming blow jobs are genetic. I'm glad that incites more maniacal and demented laughter from you...or whatever it is you are trying to communicate. I don't think you even know what you're trying to say.

    When you stop having the same biological sexual reaction that straight people have we can discuss your claims of "I was born this way"
    When you stop having the same biological sexual reaction that gay people have, can we discuss whatever moronic claims I want to attribute to you whether you actually made them or not?

    Until then we can let the people to continue to vote down homosexual marriage.
    No.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    neither am I

    I'm assuming you meant homosexuality. See if you want to change the law you need a basis beyond personal preference. Where is that when it comes to homosexuality?
    Actually, you don't since the law takes into account that personal choice is a right of the individual. In this case, all one needs to do is dispel any notion that the state has a vested interest in the matter.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Just kills you that homosexuality has no proven facutal basis in being anything more than a choice doesn't it?
    It just kills you that heterosexuality, like all sexual orientations has no factual basis in being anything more than a choice, doesn't it?

    Gay men have no different biological sexual reaction than straight men yet you want us to accept on belief that there is a genetic link to homosexuality despite any evidence in science in even a majority of homosexuals?
    It still kills you that there is no genetic evidence of what causes sexual orientation, straight or gay, doesn't it?

    Heterosexuality is the only method for natural procreation.
    Which is irrelevant to sexual orienation. It is only relevent to BEHAVIOR. You still haven't learned the difference.

    The biological sexual reaction is designed specifically for procreation.
    The BEHAVIOR is. Prove the causes for the orientations. Either point me to the designer's website, or show the genetic coding.

    Our bodies react specifically to sexual stimuli to prepare for procreation.
    This continues to show your lack of knowledge on human sexual response. There are plenty of reasons why are bodies react to sexual stimuli, Procreation is not the only one.

    So you've figured out you can get your jollies by going to another hole and that justifies a genetic link? Could you be a little more ridiculous?
    And you have still failed to show the genetic coding for heterosexuality or any sexual orientation. Until you do, your argument is meaningless.

    No one is running around claiming blow jobs are genetic.
    Again, you show complete ignorance on the difference between a behavior and an orientation. Would you like me to post the definitions of each word for you?

    When you stop having the same biological sexual reaction that straight people have we can discuss your claims of "I was born this way"
    When you can prove the the biological reactions... NOT BEHAVIORS are the same, then you will have a point. Since you haven't, you have none.

    Until then we can let the people to continue to vote down homosexual marriage.
    People vote it down because of ignorance and morality. It's their right, of course, but that's why they do it.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Sorry, I'm not the one who wants to change the law. The burden is on you.
    Actually, the burden is on you because you cannot prove that heterosexual ORIENTATION is not a choice.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    No it doesn't. How about actually addressing the argument I made on the boilogical sexual reaction in people?

    Do you also think its just a coincidence that over 90% of the world is heterosexual? Seriously?
    Do you think it's a coincidence that the vast majority of folks are right handed? You keep digging yourself deeper everytime you post on this issue, tex.



    And who told you that adults are the only ones allowed for this preference?

    Does that mean adult sisters and brothers can marry as well?
    Slipperly slope that has nothing to do with sexual orientation... so that would be a red herring as well. Hmmm... two logical fallacies in one short sentence. Impressive.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Had you been born elsewhere or at a different time you may very well have chosen a different belief system.
    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Do you think it's a coincidence that the vast majority of folks are right handed? You keep digging yourself deeper everytime you post on this issue, tex.
    Now I understand.....I'm a freak of nature for being left handed.....I even jerk off left handed.....I'm perverted

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    I think we need to take time out for definitions to avoid confusion: A Paradox of Evolution

    To answer why homosexuality exists we must first identify it. "Homosexuality" has two principle meanings which are distinct but related. Homosexuality is sexual activity between two individuals of the same gender. This includes same-sex coitus or genital contact, whether ventro-ventral, dorso-ventral, or otherwise and whether male-male or female-female.

    Homosexuality is also the innate sexual preference for one's own gender or the biological urge for same-sex coitus. While much is said about the distinction between homosexual desires (or innate sex drive) and homosexual behavior in humans, this distinction is of limited or negligible significance in non-human populations in which we infer "desire" (be it instinctive or learned) primarily from behavior. The distinctive gulf between human desire/biological impulse and behavior (Marmor, 1980) is attributed to human social mores and cultural constraints (Dickemann, 1993), which epigenetic forces can also be accounted for with biological/evolutionary explanations (Alcock, 1984, pp. 522 & 524).

    In summary, homosexuality is both the biological drive for same-sex coitus as well as the performance of same-sex coitus. Homosexuality (as defined by both definitions) has been observed in both males and females in both human and non-human populations. While it is difficult, if not impossible, to separate innate urge from action in non-human animals, the distinction between these two definitions will be important later as we discuss possible evolutionary explanations for homosexuality.
    Definition 1: homosexual behavior

    Definition 2: homosexual orientation
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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