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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    So you are open to all forms of marriage without descriminating against age, number of people or family bond? If you say no you yourself just denied equal treatment to people.


    This is the fallacy that pro gay marriage people always seem to fail to understand.
    No, it simply exhibits your own ignorance of equal protection analysis. Not every group (age, numbers of people, family bond) is analyzed the same under the Equal protection clause. Y
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL Wrong again. Show me the law that states that. Thats what I said in my statement, not a judge's interpretation of the law. The actual law.

    Damn you are fun
    I know you find it fun being wrong. You asked where it was "ruled", which to any clear thinking and rational person means "the courts ruled". So I ask again, do you ever get tired of being wrong?

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It has been ruled not a "right" my more states. Regardless...

    The debate is about the definition of marriage. People who are against gay marriage aren't homophobes, bigots, or against equality. We define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, nothing bigoted about that. I am all for civil union benefits and some kind of legal status for gay couples, but I won't allow it to be called marriage or recognized as such. California voted to define marriage, not to ban homosexuality. Californians voted, and the majority voted to define marriage as a union between a man and woman. It is bigoted to impose the definition that marriage is between any consenting adult upon the majority who voted to define it as a union between a man and woman.
    And again...no one really gives a **** what you and your kind define marriage as. We only care how the law treats people. You can define it as the sour mess you people have treated it as all along with your 50% divorce rates, your Brittney Spears 24 hour marriages "just for fun" and your high infidelity rates. No one gives a flying rat's ass if you do that and if heteros continue to treat it with shame and disrespect. However, when you try to enforce that definition through rule of law on others who don't share your views, then we have a problem.

    So Catholics believe that marriage is a union between a man and a woman with limited recourse for divorce. Do you find it so bigoted that they are forced to accept the no fault divorce that comes along with marriage now? Somehow I think not.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    I'm really tired of people who believe that religion is justification for bigotry.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    No, it simply exhibits your own ignorance of equal protection analysis. Not every group (age, numbers of people, family bond) is analyzed the same under the Equal protection clause. Y
    Then it isn't "equal" protection is it?
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm really tired of people who believe that religion is justification for bigotry.
    And I'm tired of people trying to force religions to accept their sexual orientation.
    Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm really tired of people who believe that religion is justification for bigotry.
    I don't really care what their justification is: bigotry is bigotry. And I love how certain ones whine "if you don't let me limit your rights well....well...well it 's you that's the bigot!"

    *cue up the tantrum induced foot stomping march to the nearest door to slam so they can go cry behind it

    **** them, **** their idiotic fits, **** their dishonesty, and **** their beliefs. I am sick and tired of giving people the benefit of the doubt on this only to hear the same, tired diatribes over and over and over again punctuated by the stupidity of "You're intolerant because you won't tolerate my intolerance toward your equal treatment under the law".

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I know you find it fun being wrong. You asked where it was "ruled", which to any clear thinking and rational person means "the courts ruled". So I ask again, do you ever get tired of being wrong?
    I said law. Do you understand what a law is jallman?

    Go find the law that backs you up and get back to us mmmkay?
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    And I'm tired of people trying to force religions to accept their sexual orientation.
    Here you go being wrong again. No one, not one person in this thread has made any argument toward forcing religion to accept anything.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm really tired of people who believe that religion is justification for bigotry.
    While that is nothing new, it should be noted that religion can also be used to fight against bigotry.

    Mind you, I'm an atheist, but I see how religion works both ways: Some people use it to limit their views of the world and to hold that everyone who isn't like them is evil and therefore should be denied rights or have planes flown into their buildings. Other people see religion the exact opposite and embrace many views and understand that "loving your neighbor" actually means something.

    For every hate filled religious leader out there screaming that "God hates gays" there's another who is performing gay marriages and encouraging love in all its forms.

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