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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    LOL What are you talking about? The people voted against gay marriage. A pro gay marriage judge overturned it. The people AGAIN voted against gay marriage. Now the pro gay marriage crowd is looking for another round of judicial activism and bypass the send proposition voted on by the people.

    You are the ones wanting to circumvent the law. Not the majority of the people who voted against it.
    Our Constitution gives the courts the power to overturn even votes that enacted unconstitutional laws. Just because it was voted on by "the people" doesn't mean it was constitutional in the least.

    You're going to have to learn to deal with the fact that the fight won't stop until rights are equal.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Jall is absolutely correct. Regardless, I don't believe for a second that the majority of people in California are against gay marriage. Prop 8 was failing by a large margin until the Mormon church threw millions of dollars into a deceitful and ugly campaign that told some of the biggest lies I have ever seen in a political campaign. The tactics of the mormon church to manipulate people to pass prop 8 was disgusting. Had it not been for the lies and distortion, prop 8 would have failed miserably.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Jall is absolutely correct. Regardless, I don't believe for a second that the majority of people in California are against gay marriage. Prop 8 was failing by a large margin until the Mormon church threw millions of dollars into a deceitful and ugly campaign that told some of the biggest lies I have ever seen in a political campaign. The tactics of the mormon church to manipulate people to pass prop 8 was disgusting. Had it not been for the lies and distortion, prop 8 would have failed miserably.
    I also blame people for being stupid in all that, too. Also, if it hadn't been for an Obama candidacy, a lot of people who wouldn't normally have voted turned out in force for that reason once they got riled up by the Mormons telling them that homos were going to ban moms and dads, force everyone to stop using gender specific pronouns, dine on kittens to celebrate the defeat of prop 8, steal the sun, and bring about the 4th Reich.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Our Constitution gives the courts the power to overturn even votes that enacted unconstitutional laws. Just because it was voted on by "the people" doesn't mean it was constitutional in the least.

    You're going to have to learn to deal with the fact that the fight won't stop until rights are equal.
    They give that power based on law not personal feelings.

    and no matter how many times you stamp your feet, it has never been ruled a right under the law for homosexuals.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    They give that power based on law not personal feelings.
    Exactly.

    and no matter how many times you stamp your feet, it has never been ruled a right under the law for homosexuals.
    WRONG! It was ruled a right in California, Mass., Hawaii, Vermont.

    Do you ever get tired of being wrong?

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Oh, I forgot one...add Iowa to that list, too.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    It has been ruled not a "right" my more states. Regardless...

    The debate is about the definition of marriage. People who are against gay marriage aren't homophobes, bigots, or against equality. We define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, nothing bigoted about that. I am all for civil union benefits and some kind of legal status for gay couples, but I won't allow it to be called marriage or recognized as such. California voted to define marriage, not to ban homosexuality. Californians voted, and the majority voted to define marriage as a union between a man and woman. It is bigoted to impose the definition that marriage is between any consenting adult upon the majority who voted to define it as a union between a man and woman.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Exactly.



    WRONG! It was ruled a right in California, Mass., Hawaii, Vermont.

    Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
    LOL Wrong again. Show me the law that states that. Thats what I said in my statement, not a judge's interpretation of the law. The actual law.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    it has been ruled not a "right" my more states. Regardless...

    The debate is about the definition of marriage. People who are against gay marriage aren't homophobes, bigots, or against equality. We define marriage as a union between a man and a woman, nothing bigoted about that. I am all for civil union benefits and some kind of legal status for gay couples, but i won't allow it to be called marriage or recognized as such. California voted to define marriage, not to ban homosexuality. Californians voted, and the majority voted to define marriage as a union between a man and woman. It is bigoted to impose the definition that marriage is between any consenting adult upon the majority who voted to define it as a union between a man and woman.
    very well said.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Sadly, there is a lot of truth to that. A lot of the black church-goers were mislead by the Mormon hate campaign.
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