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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    I dunno. Give me a hint. That pedophilia is okay because homosexuality is okay? Yeah, those Greeks really knew a thing or two.
    That's not what anyone said in this thread. True to form with your type, you are starting to break down into grunts and growls rather than maintaining any sense of rationality in your discussion.

    To your credit, you crossed that line much quicker than most, though.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    That's not what anyone said in this thread. True to form with your type, you are starting to break down into grunts and growls rather than maintaining any sense of rationality in your discussion.

    To your credit, you crossed that line much quicker than most, though.
    Just kills you that homosexuality has no proven facutal basis in being anything more than a choice doesn't it?

    Gay men have no different biological sexual reaction than straight men yet you want us to accept on belief that there is a genetic link to homosexuality despite any evidence in science in even a majority of homosexuals?

    Heterosexuality is the only method for natural procreation. The biological sexual reaction is designed specifically for procreation. Our bodies react specifically to sexual stimuli to prepare for procreation.

    So you've figured out you can get your jollies by going to another hole and that justifies a genetic link? Could you be a little more ridiculous?

    No one is running around claiming blow jobs are genetic.

    When you stop having the same biological sexual reaction that straight people have we can discuss your claims of "I was born this way"

    Until then we can let the people to continue to vote down homosexual marriage.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This case is about what the law calls it, so it is very relevant to the discussion.

    I am not attempting to define your anything. I am simply pointing out that what you call it is irrelevant to the big picture, which is the law. You show a lack of understanding of evolution, as homosexuality can be accounted for by evolution.
    I'm talking about social impact. You're talking about the law. Are you a lawyer? What is your legal argument then? Why are you trying to narrow this discussion to something utterly trivial?

    You may be able to "account for homosexuality by evolution" (go ahead and try) but again, without straight sex the human race would come to an abrupt end, whereas homosexuality contributes nothing and obviously wants all the benefits of marriage.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    When you stop having the same biological sexual reaction that straight people have we can discuss your claims of "I was born this way"
    When you can prove to me that all of your sexual attractions, sexual desires and sexual preferences are conscious choices, then we can discuss how sexuality is a choice too.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    When you can prove to me that all of your sexual attractions, sexual desires and sexual preferences are conscious choices, then we can discuss how sexuality is a choice too.
    Sorry, I'm not the one who wants to change the law. The burden is on you.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    Sorry, I'm not the one who wants to change the law. The burden is on you.
    Burden is on me for what? I'm not the one claiming that heterosexuality is a choice.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    Burden is on me for what? I'm not the one claiming that heterosexuality is a choice.
    neither am I

    I'm assuming you meant homosexuality. See if you want to change the law you need a basis beyond personal preference. Where is that when it comes to homosexuality?
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by texmaster View Post
    neither am I

    I'm assuming you meant homosexuality. See if you want to change the law you need a basis beyond personal preference. Where is that when it comes to homosexuality?
    No, I meant heterosexuality. If you are claiming we consciously choose who we are attracted to, that means everyone. If sexuality is a choice, then that means heterosexuality too.

    And no, I need only a basis of equality for all legal, adult citizens - regardless of "personal preference" perceived or otherwise
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    I'm talking about social impact. You're talking about the law. Are you a lawyer? What is your legal argument then? Why are you trying to narrow this discussion to something utterly trivial?
    You said you would not call it marriage. I only said that what you call it does not matter. The big picture is what the law calls it. The courts will decide that.

    You may be able to "account for homosexuality by evolution" (go ahead and try) but again, without straight sex the human race would come to an abrupt end, whereas homosexuality contributes nothing and obviously wants all the benefits of marriage.
    Which would explain why homosexuals make up between only 3 and 10 % of people. AS far as accounting for homosexuality in evolution, we need to look more further than Hamilton's Rule, which explains, among other things, altruism.
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    Uh oh Megyn...your vagina witchcraft is about ready to be exposed.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by rivrrat View Post
    No, I meant heterosexuality. If you are claiming we consciously choose who we are attracted to, that means everyone. If sexuality is a choice, then that means heterosexuality too.
    No it doesn't. How about actually addressing the argument I made on the boilogical sexual reaction in people?

    Do you also think its just a coincidence that over 90% of the world is heterosexual? Seriously?

    And no, I need no basis beyond personal preference. I need only a basis of equality for all legal, adult citizens.
    And who told you that adults are the only ones allowed for this preference?

    Does that mean adult sisters and brothers can marry as well?
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