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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

    I posted it five minutes ago. Now you've lost your temper and are bringing out the guns. Enough of this.
    That doesn't say what you claim it does. It says half of AIDS cases are homosexual men, not that half of homosexual men have AIDS. Reading really is FUNdamental.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

    I posted it five minutes ago. Now you've lost your temper and are bringing out the guns. Enough of this.
    That stat says 50% of people with AIDS are homosexual men, not that 50% of homosexuals are dying from AIDS.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

    I posted it five minutes ago. Now you've lost your temper and are bringing out the guns. Enough of this.
    That doesn't say that half of the gay men have HIV. It says half of the HIV positive people are gay men. Do you know what that means? Half are heterosexual.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

    I posted it five minutes ago. Now you've lost your temper and are bringing out the guns. Enough of this.
    Dude you posted that in another thread. How are they suppose to know about it in a thread many of them aren't in?

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/...NAL508COMP.pdf

    I posted it five minutes ago. Now you've lost your temper and are bringing out the guns. Enough of this.
    You cannot read information, accurately. You claimed that half of all MSM folks are dying of AIDS. That is NOT what the information says. Here is the quote from your link:

    MSM account for nearly half of the more than one million people living with HIV in the U.S. (48%, or an estimated
    532,000 total persons).
    Half of the people who have AIDS are MSM... not half of MSM folks have AIDS.

    You are wrong... so do you want to show some integrity and admit that you misread the information?
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    OK... so we have ALL obliterated Steve's erroneous claim. Let's see if he admits it.
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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    OK... so we have ALL obliterated Steve's erroneous claim. Let's see if he admits it.
    Either that or you could go with his logic and claim that half of all straight people have AIDS.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Easy. Normal is a value judgement and therefore is a logical fallacy.
    That's your "proof?" Thanks for the laugh.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    Quote Originally Posted by StevenA59 View Post
    That's your "proof?" Thanks for the laugh.
    What's to laugh at? He's 100% correct here; the proof was in your making a value judgment and, therefore, committing a fallacy.

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    Re: After Final Arguments in Prop. 8 Trial, Maggie Gallagher Expects Judge will Overt

    That's wrong. HE claims "normal is a value judgement" which is supposed to prove somehow that gay marriage is okay? Wow, the lack of critical thinking here is stunning. You see, you can't prove a point by claiming everyone else is wrong.

    Yes I admit I misread the statistics. But even if the number is one in ten (as in this study) it is hardly a ringing endorsement for gay marriage or homosexual lifestyle.

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