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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what legal boundaries have they exceeded, specifically
    Amendment 5 - Trial and Punishment, Compensation for Takings. Ratified 12/15/1791.

    No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.
    The United States Constitution - The U.S. Constitution Online - USConstitution.net

    Of course your next argument will be that BP voluntarily placed 20 billion dollars in an escrow account that Barry controls...... and that would be very disingenuous to say the least.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I would like to apologize for Rep. Joe Barton's apology of Rep. Joe Barton's use of the term "shakedown". Iran is on the verge of getting nukes and the war in the ME rages on, but the best America can come up with to fuss over is a term.
    and flags, flag pins, being called "small", not moving fast enough, moving too fast, too much, not enough, etc. etc.

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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by WhyteRash View Post
    and flags, flag pins, being called "small", not moving fast enough, moving too fast, too much, not enough, etc. etc.
    Let me guess..... you're free associating, right?
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    I didnt have to read the article to tell you that you cant read.

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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    make that case counselor
    almost as misguided as barton's "shakedown" statement
    I doubt you would understand

    given BP only has at most 75 Million in liability why would they agree to a much larger amount but for the threat of criminal prosecution

    Given faulty inspections and arguable recovery due to the alleged negligence of third party sub contractors. it makes no sense to agree to such a huge slush fund but for a shake down



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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    or, as is this instance, the perpetrator acknowledges responsibility and initiates action to make appropriate restitution
    but it is recognized that the wingers do tend to absolve the wealthy of any responsibility, to then stick uncle sugare with the tab, all the while whining about lack of fiscal restraint
    the bailout is an imperfect example of that inclination
    That is just stupid and the wealthy already shoulder far more responsibility than the parasites who sit around and whine that they deserve more of the wealthy's property



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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    A lot of throat clearing and jerking off, but nobody has addressed Turtle Dude's analysis with anything resembling substance.

    Rule of law?
    Or... as we have today...

    ... Ruse of law.

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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I would like to apologize for my apology of Rep. Joe Barton's apology of Rep. Joe Barton's use of the term "shakedown". There was no need to take a cheap shot at the American public's short attention span and narrow, self-centered world view.
    I thought that maybe you wanted to apologize for talking to yourself again.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what legal boundaries have they exceeded, specifically
    The ones in that little piece of paper we call the Constitution.

    Everyone is entitled to their day in court prior to declaring guilt. You, I, and everyone on this forum may believe that BP is liable for damages, but it is not legal nor ethical for individuals or our government to be making deals when negligence or illegality has not been established. If the federal government wants to insure that losses will be covered for those who will be losing income, then they should set aside funding for that, just as they funded the losses in hurricane Katrina. They should also have had the foresight to increase liability caps on businesses to keep up with current monetary rates of inflation and cost of living. BP or any other business in the oil industry is legally liable for 75 million dollars plus the costs of clean-up until negligence or breaking regulatory standards has been legally established.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by MyOwnDrum View Post
    This isn't just an ordinary negligence case. And, the money was put into trust to protect it in case BP goes bankrupt. The people affected by this will be needing the money right away, not 10 or 20 years from now after all the appeals have played out.

    Let's face it, Barton is a classic Texas Oilman. He was sticking up for his oil buddies who make up a large part of his financial political base. If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck, it's probably a duck.
    A couple of points here.

    The 20 billion won't be funded immediately but over 3 years.
    So it has nothing to do with whether or not BP goes bankrupt, not to mention that the UK would probably bail them out if they were on the edge of bankruptcy.

    The president appointed his political choice to manage the fund, not an independent regulator.

    To me the "fund" is little more than political grandstanding and nothing else.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    I completely agree with Biden's statement on this.


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