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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Glinda View Post
    Isn't it, though?
    So they are paying the claims, just not at the speed you want?

    Should they not screen them for fraud and just hand out checks to everyone?
    It also looks as if they are going to be paying more than the $75 million cap.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    BP is paying the claims out of their bank account using a claim structure they set up.

    What does it matter, if they are paying?
    then why the opposition to setting aside $20 billion in escrow
    the only basis for objection i can detect is that it made positive political press for Obama
    if there is some valid objection, share it
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then why the opposition to setting aside $20 billion in escrow
    the only basis for objection i can detect is that it made positive political press for Obama
    if there is some valid objection, share it
    It was a political move, nothing more.
    Before we start going on about partisanship, do you routinely see me criticize Obama for stupid ****?
    I hope to hear the "no" answer because I leave my criticism for more serious and valid things.

    BP has tons of assets, they also control the Pruhdoe Bay oil fields, which isn't something to sneeze at.
    Do you honestly think they wouldn't pay the claims and clean up costs when the company receives approximately half of it's revenue from operating facilities in the U.S?

    We both know that answer.
    They would lose their control over multi-trillion dollar assets, if they didn't pay.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    The USA is a big market, no doubt for BP but not the only one and the company will survive without the American market.

    Trying to bury the third largest oil company on earth will cause more harm to the world economy than the damn oil spill.

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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by ric27 View Post
    IMO.... BP should tell Obama to **** himself. If Obama thinks, he can do better have at it. We quit and then just pull out of the USA completely.

    I have no doubt that BP is doing everything possibly to stop the oil from flowing out of the damn hole...and all the bull**** political posturing on part of Obama in the world ain't going to get the hole stopped up any faster. Obama is using the opportunity to SQUEEZE, the wealth of a major world company.
    I thought most conservatives were upset with Obama because he wasn't doing enough. People do have to realize though that BP is busting their balls trying to plug this thing, the quicker it is plugged the more $ they save. Simple economics and one obvious reason BP won't pack up and leave.

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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    It was a political move, nothing more.
    Before we start going on about partisanship, do you routinely see me criticize Obama for stupid ****?
    I hope to hear the "no" answer because I leave my criticism for more serious and valid things.

    BP has tons of assets, they also control the Pruhdoe Bay oil fields, which isn't something to sneeze at.
    Do you honestly think they wouldn't pay the claims and clean up costs when the company receives approximately half of it's revenue from operating facilities in the U.S?

    We both know that answer.
    They would lose their control over multi-trillion dollar assets, if they didn't pay.
    it was a VERY smart political move
    one deserving of applause instead of ridicule
    the republicans opposed lifting the $75 million threshold of corporate liability
    in one fell swoop, Obama looked after the interest of his citizens rather than the oil industry
    that is as it should be
    $20 billion, which may not have otherwise been available to the victims now will be
    and the wingers are lined up in opposition because it was a positive political play by Obama ... that and bause they were giving the talking points to express opporition
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it was a VERY smart political move
    one deserving of applause instead of ridicule
    the republicans opposed lifting the $75 million threshold of corporate liability
    in one fell swoop, Obama looked after the interest of his citizens rather than the oil industry
    that is as it should be
    $20 billion, which may not have otherwise been available to the victims now will be
    and the wingers are lined up in opposition because it was a positive political play by Obama ... that and bause they were giving the talking points to express opporition
    BP already pledged to pay above and beyond the $75 million cap.

    This was done because people said he(Obama) wasn't doing anything, which was wrong and he needed to turn the tables around to rally support for himself.
    Smart political move, sure but in reality, with all the facts at the table it was nothing.
    BP was going to pay from the get go.

    Republicans criticize Obama all the time for stupid ****, I usually don't pay attention to their noise.
    Barton was right about this one, it was a shakedown for political points.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Guerrilla View Post
    Yes the demand is ahead of the supply and for good reason because a lot of that demand is fraudulent.
    Says who? Link?

    I never said forced, I said it was a political stunt because BP is already paying for everything.
    They're very slow. This is not something they are not set up to do. The guy that will be doling out the dough has done this before. He is excellent at it.

    Those people down there need that money NOW! Don't you ****ing get that? If they had to wait for BP's slow ass they'd go bankrupt.

    I never said a single thing about Obama "not being presidential" or "hasn't done anything."
    I really meant that as a general shout out to those right wingers who have said those things and then cry when he does something great like this fund! Talk about hypocrits!

    I rather NO politician get in the middle of the remediation effort.
    Yeah, I know. You'ld rther those people suffer unduly while BP nickels and dimes payouts. Gotcha!

    For future reference, I am center left...
    Not on this you ain't.

    It was a political stunt, which Republicans participated in.
    It's only a stunt to people who absolutely cannot and will not give Obama credit for doing anything right. Ya'll are doing great at following McConnell's memo of "Don't give Obama any victories"... to the detriment of the country.

    I'm on MY side because people like yourself forget that if they can do it to BP, they can do it to you.
    If I did what BP did to cause this disaster I would expect our government to manhandle me too. Whose side are you on anyway? Never mind. Rhetorical question.
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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I thought that maybe you wanted to apologize for talking to yourself again.
    I would like to apologize for talking to myself again. I know no one wants to hear my crap, including myself.

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    Re: Joe Barton retracts apology to BP

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    it was a VERY smart political move
    Smart, sleazy, and unethical, if not worse.




    the republicans opposed lifting the $75 million threshold of corporate liability
    in one fell swoop, Obama looked after the interest of his citizens rather than the oil industry
    that is as it should be
    $20 billion, which may not have otherwise been available to the victims now will be
    and the wingers are lined up in opposition because it was a positive political play by Obama ... that and bause they were giving the talking points to express opporition
    The republicans couldn't have lifted the cap if they wanted- they don't have the power. The truth is that both parties opposed this with good reason. It walks all over current laws to try and make something retroactively apply. There are legal issues involved, though most of you seem to prefer ignoring it.

    re-posted from wiki:
    Following the 2010 Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico, numerous U.S. Senators attempted to pass a bill to raise the $75 million cap limit to $10 billion, retroactive to before the spill occurred. Senators of both Republican Party and Democratic Party blocked efforts for new legislation on multiple occasions due to the potential unintended consequences that a new law could have.[4]. Democratic Party senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana was quoted in saying “We want to be careful before we change any of these laws that we don’t jeopardize the operations of an ongoing industry, because there are 4,000 other wells in the Gulf that have to go on.”[4] This statute limits BP's monetary damages to $75 million for losses to private parties, although it still remains liable for all cleanup costs under the law.[5]
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